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welcome back to the midnight hour show

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my friends tonight standing by on the

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mystery phone is our new investigative

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reporter stina maria

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let's jump into it and get to the

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yeah so uh i guess we will just begin

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and the first question that i would

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really like to know is what got you

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interested in some of these strange

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subjects and

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when and why did you start looking more

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deeply into it especially in regard to

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some of the personalities

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that are involved in these things

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or information sources

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well

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um

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the the conspiracy thought stuff in

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general like the conspiracy aspect of

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everything

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that i've been interested in a long time

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like i know what really did it for me

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was sandy hook

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like i bought into the whole

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alex jones

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infowars thing like

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every single documentary

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front line episode dateline episode i

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mean i was just binging it 24 7. like

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it was so

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those kids and

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olivia was like the same age you know

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around that time

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she was like going into preschool

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that that was really

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what got me thinking was

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sandy hook and then you know of course 9

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11 you know but i was a teenager when

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that happened so

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you know yeah i think it was 911 that

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did it for me actually in the conspiracy

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world because

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coincidentally i had just been

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up in the observation deck of the towers

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literally days before i think it was

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four days before that happened

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so for me i don't know it was being

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there right before it happened and

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when i was there i just remembered

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feeling like the awesomeness of that

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building you know what i mean like what

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an incredible technical achievement it

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was to build a building that huge and

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that high in the sky

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and i remember just feeling like it was

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this is this tower's gonna be here for

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like a thousand years

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because it's built this way you know

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and then

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what we're told knocked it down

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i don't know

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it didn't seem like it didn't seem

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possible to me

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i thought i locked the door and he just

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he just barked right in with the hula

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i got kids too

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so what is it that made you start

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looking into some of the personalities

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well i go on reddit a lot and i was on

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the cosmic disclosure

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uh subreddit and

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i think it was a link to

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i don't know if it was groovy bean and

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jay's channel or if it was uni rocks

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that got me first and looking into

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everything uh

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i'm pretty sure it was unirock's

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um video on sather because i always had

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this feeling you know what i mean this

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feeling about favor that i didn't quite

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subscribe to everything that he said

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like you could tell it was

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embellished and stuff

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but um yeah i don't know i can't i i

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people want me to do stories on him and

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like look into i can't stand to watch

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the guy can't stand to listen to him

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especially when he gets out of that

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white board and like acts like he's

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gonna teach you something like

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i don't know anybody that

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will like try to explain something and

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be writing on a wipe i'd i can't do it

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can't do it right

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it's like because some of the stuff that

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he writes on the whiteboard is like

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ridiculous it's just like nonsense you

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know or like you know he's saying

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something and he'll write it out on the

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whiteboard so that you don't miss his

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point which is like

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stupid anyway i don't know

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and the anti-vaxxer thing and the

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you know i have an autistic child so i

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can't stand that he's running around at

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telling autistic parents how to you know

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help their autistic he worked at a

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health food store he has no

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qualifications for anything doesn't even

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i don't even believe that he has done

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much research into autism

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no i don't and you know what's

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disgusting is that he's actually

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speaking at autism related conferences

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like autism one conferences and he's

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i don't know like i looked into that not

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that long ago and it was

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it's very secretive and the people that

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run that conference have been caught

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pushing

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uh what's the stuff that he pushes again

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yeah so yeah yeah but i i will i will

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say you you came to me with this

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information and then i looked into it a

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little bit and and the only thing the

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only comment i would make about his

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speaking at autism one conference is

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like autism one is like a fringe

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it's not like a real

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scientific organization and they're the

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kind of nuts that are pushing like oh

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maybe vaccines caused autism and maybe

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this

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mms which is essentially bleach can cure

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your child of autism

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so they're kind of it's like the

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quackery autism conference it's not it's

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not a good one but it's still it's not

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respected no it's not respected among

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anybody that deals with autistic

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children that's for sure they'll caution

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you against that organization

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see with with furio you know he's my

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second child and

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at his three-year check-up his

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pediatrician was like we need to get him

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tested for autism she wanted to do

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the full testing um and

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a neurological exam and that's when we

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found out about the sensory processing

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children that have autism tend to have

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that as well

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what most people would refer to as

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sensory issues

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either he needs

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a huge amount of input or everything or

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everything is too much and you have to

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calm the room down quiet the room where

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he gets really upset and has like

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meltdowns

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which makes things like taking him out

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in public very difficult

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but you know right yeah

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and there's extremes there's a there's a

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whole range of that some children have

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it in a slight way they have sensory

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issues and some children have in a big

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way he's kind of medium on that

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most of the time he's okay if he's over

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stimulated he puts his hands over his

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ears i know right away what to do is to

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take him out of that situation or to

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just quiet calm the environment that

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and sometimes it's just even motion one

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time we're at the cabin he was uh in the

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you know in the woods next to the cabin

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and the wind really blew and swayed all

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the trees and he lost his mind because

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too much sensory information to take in

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so your son has no i totally get it

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oh it's like extreme and then he also

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has even though it's really rare to have

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it at this age he was also diagnosed

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which you know for three years old

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that's like unheard of you know but it

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does happen and so he is he has it to

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the extreme of the the sensory

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processing so

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it's like it's he's turned all the way

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up or he's turned all the way off but

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he's rarely turned off like all the way

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my son zachary has two speeds off and on

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he is just a maniac all day and then

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just like he's a very deep sleeper he's

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it's interesting that this jordan sater

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guy is being thought of or

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talked about or putting himself out

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there as some kind of autism expert

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it's quackery what he sells right

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because you and i i was gonna say you

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with you know sensory or autism related

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issues and one that

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neurological issues right

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if it was if we thought it was related

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to anything

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even i'm not even gonna lie like

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there was a while there where i was so

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frustrated with just what's wrong but it

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prior to that like what's what is it is

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it is it like i even told the

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pediatrician like look i i'm at such a

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loss that i'm actually starting to

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wonder like is there some truth to this

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vaccine [\h__\h] you know well you know what

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you know what happened you know what

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with my son i was i was equal i was

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probably in the same boat you were like

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i was angry and i want what caused this

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like what did we do my wife didn't drink

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you know like we did everything we could

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we changed her diet to be like the best

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most nutritious while she was pregnant

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you know like whatever took the vitamins

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we did everything we could do to have a

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healthy child because i like to joke

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that in my family i started a new family

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tradition i married the girl first and

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then i knocked her out

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you know so we totally had a planned

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pregnancy it wasn't like an accident or

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i was so angry and i was looking for

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what is the what caused this

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and for a while yeah i went down that

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autism rabbit hole with the vaccines and

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all that stuff but there's a good news

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the happy ending to that was that i

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found real uh scientific studies and

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this is just recently actually in the

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past year or two

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that definitively prove that autism is

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formed in the womb before any

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uh vaccines are are given to the baby so

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it's for that four week developmental

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development it's it begins and it's a

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neurological disorder there'd be a you

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know slight abnormality in the brain

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development and so

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for me

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that took all the stuff about vaccines

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off the table as as a causal element

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because here's scientific proof that

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autism forms in the womb before

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they get any vaccines

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you know right because some of that

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evidence is convincing especially to

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hear from parents like he was fine we

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took him in you know he was talking he

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was right on his development the way he

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was supposed to be then he got vaccines

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i don't know about some of those cases

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it's really strange but

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the science proves that autism forms

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before birth

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and you know what though i mean i kind

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of get it because like i thought the

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same thing like oh syrio was fine he was

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fine and it's like when i really look

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back on it

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what caused this you need to know i

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still need to well when i

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when i look back on it though no like

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since birth there were little signs

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little issues that when i really started

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looking into the sensory issues like oh

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wow that explains that and that explains

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this so it wasn't just an onset thing

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but they prey on these people

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their emotions and their distress and

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their their feeling of just despair to

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push this this stuff yeah and the need

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to know a causal factor you know

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everything that's natural

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that has an autistic child feels the

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same way about that like they would

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really like to know what caused it i

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mean

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now for me i have moved on to i'd really

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like to know how to cure it completely

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and if not at least do enough to improve

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his quality of life to the best that it

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could possibly be

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so that's where i'm at with autism but i

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gotta say that it's not just this jordan

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say there if you look into it oh there's

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a whole lot of snake oil salesmen out

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there when it comes to autism selling

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fake hope to autistic parents and

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really giving them an advice that i

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wouldn't do that to any child let alone

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a child that has delicate you know many

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autistic children have delicate

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digestion

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problems

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which is all related and you know they

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need to have some of them need to have

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special diets gluten-free this and that

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so for some quack to be running around

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saying yeah i have them drink a little

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bit of bleach every day

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that's crazy

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it's just crazy oh yeah i spent 200 a

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month alone on formula not to mention

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the i think it was like between 40 and

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60 bucks a month on those colic com

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drops i mean i

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i did the whole nine when he was little

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because he had the digestive issues too

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he couldn't handle anything i had to get

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like hypo he was like hypoallergenic or

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something like that formula all i know

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is it was like 40 bucks a can or

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something it was so expensive

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yeah so yeah i i we were in the same

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boat we had to have special diet early

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on or special baby food i don't remember

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what but actually things cleared up for

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him and now he just eats like a horse

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so

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oh that's good

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i'm going through the toddler no mommy

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it's too eggy no it's too

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crunchy yeah yeah

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so we have jordan say that running

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around conferences acting like an expert

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and

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was there more things that you found

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with him that really kind of rubbed you

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the wrong way because i'm sure there

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probably was with me

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with caesar yes

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um

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well it's interesting that you say that

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because off the top of my head i'm

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thinking back on a conversation that i

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had with um

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somebody that i'm gonna keep them

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anonymous because they actually

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um

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they frequent the circuits

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in ufology

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so they reached out to me because i had

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just post the question on reddit about

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that's the problem you can't be asking

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questions these people do not like

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questions

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no they do not you'll know right away

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when you ask the wrong question

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that was really the right question it

398
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was the wrong question for them but you

399
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you must have asked the right one you

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know

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yeah oh yeah triggered like crazy yeah

402
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well

403
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person reached out to me and they were

404
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like

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keep looking keep looking into these

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people you are on the money and

407
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just keep going if you need any help let

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me know i can't come public about this

409
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because i am within this community i

410
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know people that run these conferences i

411
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work these conferences yeah right some

412
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guys don't want to don't want to

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rock the boat for that exact reason i

414
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have several sources like that who are

415
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like don't name me don't

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use my name you didn't hear this from me

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but

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you know well you know why because for

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you and i this isn't our bread and

420
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butter no you know yeah we've talked

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about this oh

422
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yeah exactly so that's why we feel like

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you know what what do we got to lose you

424
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ain't gonna take nothing from me you

425
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know whereas these people may have

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consequences within

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professional and business relationships

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and stuff and this is their

429
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this is their uh you know

430
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livelihood so but they told me about

431
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that whole contact in the desert

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incident

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and what really went down with that

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and they had said that you know yes

435
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contact in the desert did mess up on his

436
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dvd they will give him that but he was

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acting like a crybaby the whole time he

438
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was whining about how this wasn't comped

439
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and that wasn't constant

440
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you know they purposely put him at these

441
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seven seven thirty slots because they

442
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did not want to be associated with this

443
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q anon stuff that was not what they

444
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wanted at their conference

445
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and that's how that whole thing happened

446
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yeah so just briefly he like accused

447
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them of like censorship and this and

448
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that

449
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and then

450
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really they kind of warned him like they

451
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didn't want to have like political talk

452
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or discussion at their conference and he

453
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went and did it anyway

454
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and then some nonsense with his dvd you

455
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know like i don't know even what he's

456
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doing at a conference like this then but

457
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okay yeah

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right exactly and they have said you

459
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know when he had stated that there was a

460
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bunch of people lined up weak side and

461
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asked the room and that wasn't true

462
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either they said nobody goes to those

463
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early morning

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panels or workshops or whatever and

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that's why he was

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purposely put there so you know that was

467
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like i never really cared for him but

468
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after that i was just like yeah i knew i

469
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trusted my

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my gut and i was right you know he was

471
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he's just really immature to be honest

472
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with you he comes off like

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i don't know yes

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and then he said that he had a heckler

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and

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the source the source of that was

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someone who

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said why did you dox joe from the

479
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carolinas he's my friend

480
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and you know he didn't want to answer

481
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and i don't think he still

482
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will take responsibility for what he did

483
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with that which is ridiculous

484
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and uh you know

485
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yeah yeah and well just the fact that he

486
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he's he's a clone of wilcox is is what

487
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i've come that's the conclusion i've

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come to because

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without a lot yes and but without a lot

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of the woo-woo he he turned down the

491
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woo-woo notch on the david wilcock con

492
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and you know like he's not a time

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traveler or a psychic or any of that you

494
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know or reincarnated no he's just

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awakened you know

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he's

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i don't i don't know but he yeah that's

498
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a weird connection

499
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there's some weird connections with him

500
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and what is it roger ramseur and

501
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corey goode and wilcock they're all just

502
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like buddies in a big con you know

503
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yes yes there's a lot of uh

504
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it it there's just so many bouncing

505
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around between

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businesses and fronts and well in my

507
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opinion it seems like a front it's just

508
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like it begs the question like when

509
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you're changing the quote business name

510
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from this to this to this within a span

511
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of a couple of years

512
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it just you know raises some eyebrows

513
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and the people that are in it and then

514
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they're out of it and it's like what's

515
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the what's going on in this place i

516
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thought this was just to you know

517
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disclose the truth to people exactly and

518
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then there's all kinds of like i don't

519
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know with him especially with say with

520
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all of them but with sather especially

521
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there's a bit of like just some illusion

522
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that he's casting that he's some

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authority

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uh on all this stuff and that he's

525
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hugely successful and i gotta tell you

526
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that more than one person proved that he

527
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bought a large number of his subscribers

528
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from

529
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yeah so you can look at the you can look

530
00:20:03,430 --> 00:20:01,039
at the analytics and see that like

531
00:20:07,029 --> 00:20:03,440
nobody's subscriber count just suddenly

532
00:20:09,270 --> 00:20:07,039
jumps up like 50 000 subscribers in one

533
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month and then the next month gains no

534
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subscribers and then next month gains no

535
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subscribers and then we look further

536
00:20:16,630 --> 00:20:15,360
down six months and then we say oh

537
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here's a month he must have bought some

538
00:20:21,750 --> 00:20:19,919
more there's another 75 000 subscribers

539
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all in one month's time

540
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it's very suspicious how can you fool

541
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yourself like that like how can you just

542
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like fool yourself i don't know why

543
00:20:32,230 --> 00:20:29,200
you're something yeah i don't know why

544
00:20:34,070 --> 00:20:32,240
people actually do that but i i do

545
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believe that it helps in the in the

546
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search rankings and a few other metrics

547
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to get your other videos out there but i

548
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think at long term it's really just

549
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uh

550
00:20:47,590 --> 00:20:45,440
look look at all the subscribers i look

551
00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:47,600
at all the people watching my videos but

552
00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:50,400
then sometimes his video counts

553
00:20:54,789 --> 00:20:52,320
you know like the the view counts don't

554
00:20:56,870 --> 00:20:54,799
oh they're low they do not reflect that

555
00:20:58,870 --> 00:20:56,880
number of subscribers

556
00:21:00,070 --> 00:20:58,880
same with edge of blender same thing

557
00:21:01,669 --> 00:21:00,080
it's like

558
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very low

559
00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:03,440
yeah edge of wonder is another is

560
00:21:06,630 --> 00:21:04,960
another interesting thing that you've

561
00:21:08,549 --> 00:21:06,640
looked into we should probably talk

562
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about these guys

563
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because

564
00:21:16,789 --> 00:21:11,600
they don't like me

565
00:21:17,830 --> 00:21:16,799
asked too many questions

566
00:21:19,590 --> 00:21:17,840
uh

567
00:21:21,350 --> 00:21:19,600
for those that don't know troublemaker

568
00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:21,360
yes for those that don't know edge of

569
00:21:27,909 --> 00:21:25,280
wonder is uh hugely successful by most

570
00:21:30,070 --> 00:21:27,919
people's standards youtube channel

571
00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:30,080
with i don't know how many subscribers

572
00:21:34,789 --> 00:21:33,039
they have four hundred

573
00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:34,799
very close to four hundred thousand

574
00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:36,240
three eight so

575
00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:38,720
creating most half a million youtube

576
00:21:44,470 --> 00:21:41,600
subscribers but they are former

577
00:21:47,350 --> 00:21:44,480
employees of about times

578
00:21:49,669 --> 00:21:47,360
admitted former employees of epoch times

579
00:21:50,950 --> 00:21:49,679
who we're going to put an asterisk on

580
00:21:54,549 --> 00:21:50,960
the former

581
00:21:56,789 --> 00:21:54,559
now yes yes exactly i agree with you

582
00:22:00,230 --> 00:21:56,799
and what it turns out is that epoch

583
00:22:03,270 --> 00:22:00,240
times is really run by a chinese cult

584
00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:03,280
called falun gong or phalaendafa

585
00:22:08,070 --> 00:22:06,640
and these two youtube hosts are members

586
00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:08,080
of that

587
00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:09,760
which i'm going to call it a chinese

588
00:22:13,750 --> 00:22:12,400
cult now out of respect i shouldn't do

589
00:22:16,549 --> 00:22:13,760
that because

590
00:22:19,190 --> 00:22:16,559
you know i've talked to sort of a mutual

591
00:22:20,230 --> 00:22:19,200
friend between those two guys and me

592
00:22:22,630 --> 00:22:20,240
not really a friend more like

593
00:22:24,470 --> 00:22:22,640
acquaintance but you know she has a show

594
00:22:25,909 --> 00:22:24,480
and she's kind of friendly with them and

595
00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:25,919
heard some of the things i was saying

596
00:22:28,789 --> 00:22:27,840
and like yeah it's not a cult and this

597
00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:28,799
and that

598
00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:30,960
i so out of respect i told her i

599
00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:32,400
wouldn't call it a cult anymore a

600
00:22:35,909 --> 00:22:33,520
chinese

601
00:22:38,310 --> 00:22:35,919
spiritual movement religious

602
00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:38,320
organization i don't know how else to

603
00:22:42,789 --> 00:22:41,360
call it if not a cult but okay i

604
00:22:45,270 --> 00:22:42,799
i'll try

605
00:22:47,430 --> 00:22:45,280
so these guys uh want everybody to

606
00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:47,440
believe that they

607
00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:50,640
quit their highly lucrative jobs working

608
00:22:55,990 --> 00:22:52,559
for epoch times

609
00:22:59,029 --> 00:22:56,000
and just started a youtube channel

610
00:23:01,750 --> 00:22:59,039
and got 400 000 subscribers

611
00:23:05,029 --> 00:23:01,760
and they're talking about uh the

612
00:23:07,110 --> 00:23:05,039
paranormal and ufos and

613
00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:07,120
conspiracy stuff

614
00:23:12,310 --> 00:23:09,840
but near as i can tell neither really

615
00:23:14,149 --> 00:23:12,320
have any history in ever being

616
00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:14,159
interested or involved in any of that

617
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:17,120
stuff right isn't that what you found

618
00:23:22,870 --> 00:23:21,280
yes yes ben i would say that if

619
00:23:24,630 --> 00:23:22,880
if i had to put money i would say that

620
00:23:29,590 --> 00:23:24,640
he was

621
00:23:31,990 --> 00:23:29,600
the one that initially started the show

622
00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:32,000
and the other one was the co-host and

623
00:23:37,270 --> 00:23:34,880
now he's just there full-time but yeah i

624
00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:37,280
mean i looked into his background then

625
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:40,640
and he he was interested in politics and

626
00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:43,760
i would say spirituality and just

627
00:23:49,029 --> 00:23:47,520
i guess i'll give him that that possibly

628
00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:49,039
i could say

629
00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:50,799
he was

630
00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:54,000
interested to a degree but the other one

631
00:23:57,110 --> 00:23:56,400
never i never seen anything that was

632
00:23:58,310 --> 00:23:57,120
ever

633
00:24:00,950 --> 00:23:58,320
i mean

634
00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:00,960
nothing it was always just about

635
00:24:04,549 --> 00:24:02,320
what does he do for he was an art

636
00:24:07,590 --> 00:24:04,559
director so it was always usually

637
00:24:09,029 --> 00:24:07,600
art related food related epoch times

638
00:24:10,870 --> 00:24:09,039
related

639
00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:10,880
sometimes bits and pieces about his

640
00:24:18,070 --> 00:24:13,679
family but never anything to do with

641
00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:18,080
ufos politics conspiracy theories the

642
00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:25,430
it's just crazy and the oh let me just

643
00:24:29,269 --> 00:24:27,600
say that the explanation

644
00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:29,279
because a lot of people have pointed out

645
00:24:33,990 --> 00:24:32,080
that these guys went from zero to four

646
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:34,000
hundred thousand subscribers

647
00:24:37,909 --> 00:24:36,240
i mean as far as youtube time goes

648
00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:37,919
virtually overnight

649
00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:40,880
and yeah they have a level of production

650
00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:43,360
that is on par with cnn or most

651
00:24:48,789 --> 00:24:46,320
television channels like they have every

652
00:24:52,149 --> 00:24:48,799
bell and whistle incredibly expensive

653
00:24:53,350 --> 00:24:52,159
cameras they have incredible resources

654
00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:53,360
so a lot of people have been pointing

655
00:24:58,149 --> 00:24:55,840
this out and their only defense for why

656
00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:58,159
they grew so fast is that they

657
00:25:02,710 --> 00:25:00,400
uh responded to every comment on every

658
00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:02,720
video which is i don't know i think

659
00:25:07,110 --> 00:25:04,799
that's a crazy explanation

660
00:25:09,430 --> 00:25:07,120
and what people also don't know

661
00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:09,440
or should be aware of is that epoch

662
00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:12,799
times retweets all their videos

663
00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:17,430
but a lot of the views that they get are

664
00:25:22,070 --> 00:25:19,520
just coming from china those people

665
00:25:22,950 --> 00:25:22,080
don't even speak english but they you

666
00:25:25,269 --> 00:25:22,960
know

667
00:25:26,390 --> 00:25:25,279
are interested in epoch times epoch

668
00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:26,400
times

669
00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:28,480
retweets all of their stuff

670
00:25:31,909 --> 00:25:30,320
re you know what i mean like they every

671
00:25:33,269 --> 00:25:31,919
facebook post

672
00:25:35,029 --> 00:25:33,279
that they do

673
00:25:37,430 --> 00:25:35,039
gets sent through epoch times and they

674
00:25:39,510 --> 00:25:37,440
have a huge network of people and

675
00:25:41,909 --> 00:25:39,520
as far as i believe

676
00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:41,919
chinese bot farms hitting a lot of views

677
00:25:47,110 --> 00:25:44,240
on their channel too and the same thing

678
00:25:50,149 --> 00:25:47,120
with paid subscribers i've heard

679
00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:50,159
you know it's crazy that these guys just

680
00:25:53,430 --> 00:25:51,600
came out of nowhere and now they're

681
00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:53,440
supposed to be the big shots of this

682
00:25:57,510 --> 00:25:55,200
whole field

683
00:25:59,590 --> 00:25:57,520
i don't know if you if you look into

684
00:26:01,830 --> 00:25:59,600
them on twitter too you'll see bots that

685
00:26:04,070 --> 00:26:01,840
are you know retweeting their stuff just

686
00:26:06,470 --> 00:26:04,080
like the same

687
00:26:08,470 --> 00:26:06,480
this you know i can't read chinese but

688
00:26:10,230 --> 00:26:08,480
the same characters over and over again

689
00:26:13,190 --> 00:26:10,240
just spammed every time they have a new

690
00:26:14,789 --> 00:26:13,200
video out it's just a bunch of thoughts

691
00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:14,799
spamming their stuff and this is as

692
00:26:18,950 --> 00:26:17,600
recent as like last week i've seen this

693
00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:18,960
so it's not

694
00:26:22,710 --> 00:26:20,640
like this was in the beginning and now

695
00:26:25,990 --> 00:26:22,720
they don't have to do that stuff anymore

696
00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:26,000
there's that's still how they roll

697
00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:27,039
yeah so

698
00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:29,200
i guess here we have uh somebody else

699
00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:32,080
casting another big illusion but it's

700
00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:33,760
it's kind of easy to see through if you

701
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:36,400
look into those guys

702
00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:38,400
and a lot of people don't want to yeah

703
00:26:42,390 --> 00:26:40,559
and there there's sudden association

704
00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:42,400
with some of these nefarious characters

705
00:26:47,590 --> 00:26:45,520
like david wilcock and corey goode and

706
00:26:50,549 --> 00:26:47,600
and some of these woo sales people like

707
00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:50,559
laura eisenhower and uh

708
00:26:55,269 --> 00:26:53,039
i don't know it's just funny how uh i

709
00:26:57,590 --> 00:26:55,279
guess that's their new outlet they lost

710
00:26:59,350 --> 00:26:57,600
gaia tv so now they're gonna connect in

711
00:27:02,070 --> 00:26:59,360
with this chinese cult

712
00:27:04,470 --> 00:27:02,080
and together a cosmic con man that talks

713
00:27:06,789 --> 00:27:04,480
to blue space chicken aliens

714
00:27:08,549 --> 00:27:06,799
and these two chinese cult members and

715
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:08,559
their friends are going to bring us

716
00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:11,039
alien disclosure

717
00:27:15,510 --> 00:27:12,480
right right

718
00:27:16,390 --> 00:27:15,520
yeah yeah these these average joes these

719
00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:16,400
you know

720
00:27:20,710 --> 00:27:17,440
your

721
00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:20,720
regular old americans they're gonna be

722
00:27:24,789 --> 00:27:22,799
the ones that yeah and i think that's

723
00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:24,799
the appeal to be honest with you i think

724
00:27:27,909 --> 00:27:26,480
that's the appeal with these guys is

725
00:27:29,909 --> 00:27:27,919
that they are

726
00:27:31,990 --> 00:27:29,919
they have flaws they have character

727
00:27:35,029 --> 00:27:32,000
flaws that you can see and they're not

728
00:27:38,310 --> 00:27:35,039
perfect and they're you know not

729
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:38,320
some you know brad pitt looking dude

730
00:27:42,950 --> 00:27:40,480
you know what i mean like

731
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:42,960
no no offense or anything but they're

732
00:27:48,789 --> 00:27:46,320
just very average looking guys and

733
00:27:51,590 --> 00:27:48,799
they're not spectacular and same with

734
00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:51,600
corey good and david wilcock and say

735
00:27:56,230 --> 00:27:53,679
they're like they're just

736
00:27:57,510 --> 00:27:56,240
mediocre vanilla so

737
00:27:59,669 --> 00:27:57,520
that's the appeal they're not

738
00:28:02,230 --> 00:27:59,679
intimidating they're not anybody that

739
00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:02,240
you know

740
00:28:09,269 --> 00:28:05,039
it resonates with people because most of

741
00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:09,279
us are just regular people you know

742
00:28:13,269 --> 00:28:11,440
yeah that's the appeal

743
00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:13,279
and and you looked into some of their

744
00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:14,880
so-called research and found some

745
00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:16,320
interesting things i'm talking about the

746
00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:18,080
edge of wonder guys

747
00:28:21,510 --> 00:28:19,840
how they're citing articles that are

748
00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:21,520
like

749
00:28:26,149 --> 00:28:24,240
yeah yeah is this just absolutely

750
00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:26,159
considered like the

751
00:28:30,310 --> 00:28:28,320
owner of yeah can you explain that one

752
00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:30,320
that you know that one that you found

753
00:28:35,990 --> 00:28:32,480
because i think it's pretty telling

754
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:36,000
about their research skills too

755
00:28:40,389 --> 00:28:38,399
yeah uh it was regarding global warming

756
00:28:44,950 --> 00:28:40,399
and the article that they referenced was

757
00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:44,960
on uh great breitbart the reit

758
00:28:48,389 --> 00:28:46,799
and you know i've i've

759
00:28:50,630 --> 00:28:48,399
never heard of them before but i have

760
00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:50,640
looked into them and apparently they are

761
00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:52,000
a huge

762
00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:53,840
right-wing

763
00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:55,760
platform like they actually call

764
00:29:00,070 --> 00:28:57,279
themselves a

765
00:29:01,830 --> 00:29:00,080
platform for the alt-right the the guy

766
00:29:02,789 --> 00:29:01,840
that runs

767
00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:02,799
the uh

768
00:29:06,549 --> 00:29:05,440
sure sure yeah yeah yeah

769
00:29:08,230 --> 00:29:06,559
it's funny that that's what they're

770
00:29:11,430 --> 00:29:08,240
citing is proof of something that

771
00:29:13,510 --> 00:29:11,440
they're discussing i think that's funny

772
00:29:16,310 --> 00:29:13,520
oh yeah because that's that's their uh

773
00:29:18,310 --> 00:29:16,320
thing is that i i don't know what it was

774
00:29:20,630 --> 00:29:18,320
but i don't know who jumped on the q

775
00:29:22,389 --> 00:29:20,640
bandwagon first whether it was wilcock

776
00:29:25,029 --> 00:29:22,399
or whether it was the edge of wonder

777
00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:25,039
guys but all of them noticed like hey we

778
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:27,600
gotta get on this cute stuff because

779
00:29:32,230 --> 00:29:30,480
wow these people are fanatical it

780
00:29:33,669 --> 00:29:32,240
actually it actually may have been see

781
00:29:35,669 --> 00:29:33,679
there now that i think about it because

782
00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:35,679
he sells the cute coins

783
00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:38,240
yeah and and the whole thing is like i

784
00:29:41,909 --> 00:29:39,760
think that them

785
00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:41,919
all jumping on this q and on stuff is

786
00:29:45,669 --> 00:29:44,640
just an attempt to expand their

787
00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:45,679
audience

788
00:29:51,350 --> 00:29:48,080
get more people clicking their you know

789
00:29:52,389 --> 00:29:51,360
views and get their views up and

790
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:52,399
i don't know

791
00:29:58,630 --> 00:29:55,760
maybe improve their uh their cash intake

792
00:30:02,070 --> 00:29:58,640
of those lecture fees

793
00:30:04,149 --> 00:30:02,080
oh absolutely and you know they're

794
00:30:06,950 --> 00:30:04,159
corey good's background is you know

795
00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:06,960
evangelical recently david wilcock had

796
00:30:10,470 --> 00:30:08,880
said something about being a christian

797
00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:10,480
when that whole gaya thing happened he

798
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:13,279
was all you know but hurt over

799
00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:15,600
what was it the nazis or something there

800
00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:19,200
is even luciferians man they're running

801
00:30:23,269 --> 00:30:20,880
everything oh my god

802
00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:23,279
yes they are these satanists and stuff

803
00:30:28,070 --> 00:30:25,600
meanwhile their main brother has a

804
00:30:30,230 --> 00:30:28,080
freaking satanist tattoo on his

805
00:30:32,230 --> 00:30:30,240
neck

806
00:30:33,590 --> 00:30:32,240
what is that thing on his on his throat

807
00:30:35,830 --> 00:30:33,600
uh

808
00:30:39,190 --> 00:30:35,840
i think it's a pentagram but i will say

809
00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:39,200
that i agree with uh c.w channer got a

810
00:30:44,630 --> 00:30:41,760
lot of flack for he like made a video

811
00:30:46,549 --> 00:30:44,640
defending his right to have a tattoo and

812
00:30:47,669 --> 00:30:46,559
saying you know essentially that can

813
00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:47,679
mean different things to different

814
00:30:51,430 --> 00:30:49,679
people if he wants to have that tattoo

815
00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:51,440
good for him and i agree with that but

816
00:30:55,909 --> 00:30:53,840
it is kind of strange that david wilcox

817
00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:55,919
crying about luciferianism's

818
00:31:00,070 --> 00:30:58,960
people and all this all this evil you

819
00:31:03,269 --> 00:31:00,080
know

820
00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:03,279
this evil dark cult and the guy that

821
00:31:07,590 --> 00:31:05,039
he's running around with has that on his

822
00:31:09,190 --> 00:31:07,600
neck that's kind of strange right and i

823
00:31:11,909 --> 00:31:09,200
i'm right with you guys like i don't

824
00:31:14,389 --> 00:31:11,919
care i got i got some some trashy

825
00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:14,399
tattoos myself like

826
00:31:17,590 --> 00:31:15,840
i'm sure you don't have the time to go

827
00:31:18,789 --> 00:31:17,600
get them covered up like

828
00:31:21,830 --> 00:31:18,799
you know

829
00:31:23,909 --> 00:31:21,840
so like i get it like i i don't care

830
00:31:25,669 --> 00:31:23,919
about that but it's just the hypocrisy

831
00:31:27,590 --> 00:31:25,679
because if somebody on the other side

832
00:31:29,110 --> 00:31:27,600
one of their critics were to have

833
00:31:31,669 --> 00:31:29,120
anything i mean you know they're all

834
00:31:33,430 --> 00:31:31,679
about the dot connection so if anybody

835
00:31:36,070 --> 00:31:33,440
on the other side had something that

836
00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:36,080
resembled a pentagram

837
00:31:38,789 --> 00:31:37,519
they would be like

838
00:31:41,750 --> 00:31:38,799
look

839
00:31:43,909 --> 00:31:41,760
they are evil you know because

840
00:31:46,950 --> 00:31:43,919
that tattoo you know it's just the

841
00:31:48,389 --> 00:31:46,960
double standard and the hypocrisy

842
00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:48,399
absolutely

843
00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:50,320
and i think it's kind of funny that all

844
00:31:53,350 --> 00:31:51,760
of these people are kind of connected

845
00:31:55,190 --> 00:31:53,360
and you've been looking into some of

846
00:31:58,549 --> 00:31:55,200
them i mean we talked about the edge of

847
00:32:02,149 --> 00:31:58,559
wonder but the big uh the big

848
00:32:04,950 --> 00:32:02,159
con men i guess cosmic con men who seem

849
00:32:08,710 --> 00:32:04,960
to be running the thing is david wilcock

850
00:32:10,789 --> 00:32:08,720
and his partner in slime corey goode

851
00:32:13,669 --> 00:32:10,799
and yeah these two are incredible

852
00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:13,679
characters i've looked into them and you

853
00:32:17,830 --> 00:32:15,760
know lately other people like you are

854
00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:17,840
starting to look into them which is i

855
00:32:21,669 --> 00:32:20,000
think yeah i think it's great because

856
00:32:23,669 --> 00:32:21,679
people deserve the truth about these

857
00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:23,679
people

858
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:28,480
take the time to just look into these

859
00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:30,559
people and and that's what you know i'm

860
00:32:35,590 --> 00:32:32,720
not gonna lie like when i first started

861
00:32:39,750 --> 00:32:35,600
looking into them i was in denial i was

862
00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:39,760
like oh this isn't a cold come on that

863
00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:42,480
this is that's dramatic and then i was

864
00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:43,360
like

865
00:32:49,029 --> 00:32:46,240
yeah no this this is a cult yeah okay i

866
00:32:51,269 --> 00:32:49,039
stand corrected like

867
00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:51,279
it took me a while to finally like see

868
00:32:55,110 --> 00:32:52,559
that but when i first heard people

869
00:32:56,789 --> 00:32:55,120
calling it a cult i was like come on get

870
00:32:58,389 --> 00:32:56,799
off of it yeah i mean

871
00:33:01,669 --> 00:32:58,399
it's interesting to look at some of the

872
00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:01,679
signs of a cult and then you know uh

873
00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:04,000
and then look at this all the situation

874
00:33:08,470 --> 00:33:06,320
and it's kind of a match for match you

875
00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:08,480
know charismatic leaders oh yeah

876
00:33:13,029 --> 00:33:10,720
exploitation of the members the lower

877
00:33:16,070 --> 00:33:13,039
members in either the form of sexual

878
00:33:18,389 --> 00:33:16,080
exploitation or financial usually

879
00:33:19,669 --> 00:33:18,399
financial comes you know for sure with

880
00:33:21,909 --> 00:33:19,679
these guys

881
00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:21,919
it's financial exploitation of the lower

882
00:33:25,110 --> 00:33:23,200
members

883
00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:25,120
i think it's interesting and i want to

884
00:33:29,190 --> 00:33:27,360
mention her this spud wife is that her

885
00:33:32,789 --> 00:33:29,200
name on twitter

886
00:33:35,430 --> 00:33:32,799
yeah yes she has been looking into corey

887
00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:35,440
goode and i just laugh every time i see

888
00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:36,880
a post from her because she found some

889
00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:38,640
of the same things that i did and other

890
00:33:42,870 --> 00:33:40,240
people have pointed out but it's funny

891
00:33:45,909 --> 00:33:42,880
to see it all sort of collected

892
00:33:48,549 --> 00:33:45,919
uh this corey goode is constantly

893
00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:48,559
begging for paypal donations

894
00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:51,200
for one time or another like oh thank

895
00:33:54,870 --> 00:33:53,440
you guys because my family really needed

896
00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:54,880
a vacation

897
00:33:59,669 --> 00:33:57,200
i needed those paypal donations to take

898
00:34:02,630 --> 00:33:59,679
my family on vacation and then it's we

899
00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:02,640
have moving expenses he was moving to a

900
00:34:08,550 --> 00:34:05,200
place that someone paid the rent for his

901
00:34:10,470 --> 00:34:08,560
family for a year to live there

902
00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:10,480
and that wasn't good enough for him he

903
00:34:13,829 --> 00:34:12,960
had to go and get paypal donations to

904
00:34:18,470 --> 00:34:13,839
pay

905
00:34:21,829 --> 00:34:18,480
expenses into that house that he was

906
00:34:24,069 --> 00:34:21,839
getting to live in for free for a year

907
00:34:26,950 --> 00:34:24,079
then we have his wife's birthday where

908
00:34:29,349 --> 00:34:26,960
he got paypal donations and his wife had

909
00:34:31,430 --> 00:34:29,359
a nice spa day

910
00:34:34,069 --> 00:34:31,440
then we have him asking for paypal

911
00:34:36,230 --> 00:34:34,079
donations to pay for lawyers to fight

912
00:34:38,629 --> 00:34:36,240
with his critics who say that he tells

913
00:34:40,950 --> 00:34:38,639
fairy tales and it just goes on and on

914
00:34:43,190 --> 00:34:40,960
with that guy right

915
00:34:45,270 --> 00:34:43,200
how can you feel like a man

916
00:34:47,349 --> 00:34:45,280
to need somebody to pay for your wife's

917
00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:47,359
birthday present

918
00:34:51,109 --> 00:34:49,440
how can you feel like a husband how can

919
00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:51,119
you i don't like it i didn't even i

920
00:34:56,069 --> 00:34:53,679
didn't even think about that point of

921
00:34:58,150 --> 00:34:56,079
that thing until you mentioned that to

922
00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:58,160
me previously and it and it really made

923
00:35:03,910 --> 00:35:00,560
me think like yeah that's crazy because

924
00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:03,920
like he's got no shame if i get listen

925
00:35:09,270 --> 00:35:06,560
if i've had me and my wife has had ups

926
00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:09,280
and downs we both grew up like terribly

927
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:12,400
terribly poor we're doing great now you

928
00:35:15,910 --> 00:35:13,920
know but

929
00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:15,920
there's been some tough times maybe we

930
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:17,760
didn't have a lot of money i always

931
00:35:21,510 --> 00:35:18,960
found

932
00:35:23,670 --> 00:35:21,520
a couple of bucks i mean you know right

933
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:23,680
buy some flowers in a card

934
00:35:28,230 --> 00:35:25,920
that's you know five bucks ten bucks

935
00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:28,240
what you know

936
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:30,320
but to go like i was just thinking like

937
00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:32,400
what would it take for me to go beg for

938
00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:34,800
paypal donations to buy my wife a bird i

939
00:35:39,190 --> 00:35:36,960
could i just can't imagine most men

940
00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:39,200
doing that it's crazy i can't even i

941
00:35:42,550 --> 00:35:40,240
think he has

942
00:35:44,870 --> 00:35:42,560
her it's like he has no shame of doing

943
00:35:47,109 --> 00:35:44,880
things like that though he can't because

944
00:35:49,430 --> 00:35:47,119
he's constantly doing it like no pay my

945
00:35:52,150 --> 00:35:49,440
moving expenses oh pay for my family

946
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:52,160
vacation pay for my wife's birthday it's

947
00:35:56,069 --> 00:35:53,680
crazy oh yeah

948
00:35:57,109 --> 00:35:56,079
it's become his knee-jerk reaction and

949
00:36:00,069 --> 00:35:57,119
it's on

950
00:36:02,550 --> 00:36:00,079
his uh serbian alliance website that

951
00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:02,560
says that he doesn't feel right charging

952
00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:04,560
for the information that he's coming out

953
00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:07,680
with but you know if you'd like you know

954
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:10,720
shop at his store or send a donation but

955
00:36:14,630 --> 00:36:13,440
you know from what i've been told by

956
00:36:16,710 --> 00:36:14,640
people

957
00:36:17,829 --> 00:36:16,720
they charge a lot for their speaking

958
00:36:21,349 --> 00:36:17,839
engagement

959
00:36:23,349 --> 00:36:21,359
a lot yeah yeah a lot yeah i wish i

960
00:36:25,750 --> 00:36:23,359
could get i wish you could get an actual

961
00:36:27,829 --> 00:36:25,760
verified number out of somebody but i

962
00:36:30,390 --> 00:36:27,839
heard it's a couple thousand dollars for

963
00:36:31,910 --> 00:36:30,400
speaking one speaking fee that's pretty

964
00:36:34,390 --> 00:36:31,920
crazy i heard

965
00:36:36,870 --> 00:36:34,400
i heard that my return

966
00:36:39,790 --> 00:36:36,880
and how much our annual salary was last

967
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:39,800
year was nowhere near one speaking

968
00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:43,440
engagement wow see that and my husband

969
00:36:49,910 --> 00:36:47,599
supports a whole family with his income

970
00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:49,920
yes mortgage to car payments you know

971
00:36:53,349 --> 00:36:51,280
the whole nine

972
00:36:55,910 --> 00:36:53,359
and this one

973
00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:55,920
engagement was more than that plus our

974
00:37:00,710 --> 00:36:58,000
income tax plus i

975
00:37:02,950 --> 00:37:00,720
just our whole income for the year

976
00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:02,960
one yeah maybe they're doing something

977
00:37:07,670 --> 00:37:04,400
right and we're doing something wrong we

978
00:37:08,390 --> 00:37:07,680
gotta invent a religion or cosmic con

979
00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:08,400
right

980
00:37:14,630 --> 00:37:12,480
some fake ufos and throw them up in the

981
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:14,640
air and take some pictures and you know

982
00:37:17,750 --> 00:37:16,000
tell people we're in contact we don't

983
00:37:19,589 --> 00:37:17,760
even have that what are you doing i know

984
00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:19,599
they don't even have they didn't even go

985
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:22,400
that far yeah they they they just have

986
00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:24,640
stories both of these guys this is the

987
00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:26,320
problem that i've always had with these

988
00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:28,480
two guys in particular

989
00:37:32,550 --> 00:37:30,880
is is that some guys actually have some

990
00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:32,560
kind of evidence

991
00:37:37,030 --> 00:37:34,320
and and then you can pick apart they

992
00:37:40,150 --> 00:37:37,040
don't have any none for all of their

993
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:40,160
grand claims and you know uh

994
00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:42,560
grand i don't know just

995
00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:44,800
it's ridiculous stories that they've i

996
00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:45,760
don't know

997
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:47,520
david wilcock has been at it for 20

998
00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:48,640
years

999
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:51,359
corey good for five so i just can't

1000
00:37:55,190 --> 00:37:52,640
imagine like running around telling

1001
00:37:57,430 --> 00:37:55,200
fairy tales for five years never putting

1002
00:38:00,069 --> 00:37:57,440
up one bit of evidence and you still can

1003
00:38:01,829 --> 00:38:00,079
just keep rolling on it's crazy that

1004
00:38:03,349 --> 00:38:01,839
these guys can get away with it

1005
00:38:05,349 --> 00:38:03,359
especially with the money that they're

1006
00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:05,359
making oh and i have to say you were

1007
00:38:09,589 --> 00:38:06,560
right about

1008
00:38:11,829 --> 00:38:09,599
you looked into some of uh david wilcox

1009
00:38:13,589 --> 00:38:11,839
finances and i was wrong i said on a

1010
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:13,599
previous episode i always love to admit

1011
00:38:17,829 --> 00:38:14,960
when i'm wrong

1012
00:38:20,230 --> 00:38:17,839
you know i said that he was i think that

1013
00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:20,240
he was broke because he's living in some

1014
00:38:23,270 --> 00:38:21,920
shitty rental house

1015
00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:23,280
and uh

1016
00:38:27,190 --> 00:38:25,280
i found out through you that i was

1017
00:38:29,990 --> 00:38:27,200
pretty wrong about that do you want to

1018
00:38:31,750 --> 00:38:30,000
tell us about some of mr wilcox recent

1019
00:38:34,870 --> 00:38:31,760
purchases

1020
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:34,880
holy i mean i couldn't imagine you know

1021
00:38:39,349 --> 00:38:36,960
me and pat every now and then we're like

1022
00:38:41,510 --> 00:38:39,359
if we win the lottery let's just go to

1023
00:38:43,910 --> 00:38:41,520
zillow and look at some houses you know

1024
00:38:46,310 --> 00:38:43,920
everybody gets those pipe dreams well

1025
00:38:48,230 --> 00:38:46,320
wilcock is living it let me tell you

1026
00:38:50,950 --> 00:38:48,240
here

1027
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:50,960
it's like painful to say this oh and by

1028
00:38:55,510 --> 00:38:53,280
the way the rental the rental house that

1029
00:38:57,589 --> 00:38:55,520
i thought was a crappy little rental

1030
00:38:59,589 --> 00:38:57,599
house that he was living in

1031
00:39:01,349 --> 00:38:59,599
uh belonged to his

1032
00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:01,359
i believe it was his girlfriend at the

1033
00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:03,760
time and then he married her so that was

1034
00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:05,920
what is her name uh elizabeth wilcock

1035
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:07,760
now right

1036
00:39:13,030 --> 00:39:10,160
no her name's beth beth wilcock yes so

1037
00:39:15,109 --> 00:39:13,040
but you found out

1038
00:39:16,310 --> 00:39:15,119
that i was totally wrong that that was

1039
00:39:19,829 --> 00:39:16,320
just

1040
00:39:22,470 --> 00:39:19,839
his girlfriend or wife's rental and

1041
00:39:25,589 --> 00:39:22,480
he moved up

1042
00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:25,599
real estate wise yeah big time

1043
00:39:31,349 --> 00:39:28,960
big time big time so yeah him and beth

1044
00:39:33,990 --> 00:39:31,359
which her name is beth not it was the

1045
00:39:35,910 --> 00:39:34,000
best it's it's beth just freed up beth i

1046
00:39:37,030 --> 00:39:35,920
don't know where this who who creates

1047
00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:37,040
the big name

1048
00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:39,040
just elizabeth like it's just that

1049
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:41,520
drives me crazy like it just drives me

1050
00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:43,920
bananas but yeah elizabeth didn't you

1051
00:39:49,510 --> 00:39:47,040
find you found that she never used the

1052
00:39:51,270 --> 00:39:49,520
word she never used the name elizabeth

1053
00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:51,280
before she married david wilcock it was

1054
00:39:55,750 --> 00:39:53,119
always beth

1055
00:39:58,150 --> 00:39:55,760
yeah i can't like legally her name

1056
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:58,160
legally has never been elizabeth it's

1057
00:40:01,829 --> 00:40:00,480
all it's death legally like her maiden

1058
00:40:04,710 --> 00:40:01,839
name

1059
00:40:06,309 --> 00:40:04,720
wow that's crazy isn't it

1060
00:40:08,069 --> 00:40:06,319
that's kind of weird

1061
00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:08,079
oh but i'm sorry i didn't mean to get us

1062
00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:10,800
off track so can you tell us about his

1063
00:40:16,950 --> 00:40:13,520
recent real estate acquisition because i

1064
00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:16,960
found this extremely interesting

1065
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:19,040
so i think it was 2018 the beginning of

1066
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:21,839
2018 when they got married

1067
00:40:29,150 --> 00:40:24,880
they both purchased uh well they're both

1068
00:40:33,510 --> 00:40:29,160
on the deed rather but he acquired a

1069
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:33,520
950 000 loan and put down i think it was

1070
00:40:36,550 --> 00:40:35,280
like 300 000

1071
00:40:41,910 --> 00:40:36,560
cash

1072
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:41,920
on a house out in colorado yes a 1.3

1073
00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:45,119
million dollar log cabin mansion

1074
00:40:49,750 --> 00:40:47,200
huge

1075
00:40:55,030 --> 00:40:49,760
like

1076
00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:55,040
but you know it's wow

1077
00:40:59,430 --> 00:40:57,119
yeah i don't know everybody imagine the

1078
00:41:01,109 --> 00:40:59,440
mortgage yeah i don't know you know uh

1079
00:41:04,950 --> 00:41:01,119
when i when i seen it i was kind of like

1080
00:41:07,589 --> 00:41:04,960
well you know i'm building a cabin uh so

1081
00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:07,599
i i don't know i can't lie it is

1082
00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:10,560
impressive it's impressive but

1083
00:41:14,309 --> 00:41:13,359
uh i don't respect a man that buys a log

1084
00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:14,319
cabin

1085
00:41:18,069 --> 00:41:16,400
i respect a man that builds one and

1086
00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:18,079
that's just me

1087
00:41:22,390 --> 00:41:20,160
coming from a guy building one i guess

1088
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:22,400
maybe i'm being petty but

1089
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:24,960
we're jealous or jealous like

1090
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:26,640
it's a lot of work and i'm building a

1091
00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:28,800
little tiny one man and it's taken me

1092
00:41:33,109 --> 00:41:30,960
years like to get it done oh it's so

1093
00:41:35,829 --> 00:41:33,119
cool though yeah it's really cool this

1094
00:41:38,790 --> 00:41:35,839
guy just slapped down 300 grand and

1095
00:41:39,990 --> 00:41:38,800
bought one and got a million dollar loan

1096
00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:40,000
and another thing that i found

1097
00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:42,000
interesting is that wilcock is always

1098
00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:44,160
kind of complaining about all the piracy

1099
00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:46,079
on youtube and how he should be making

1100
00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:47,440
millions

1101
00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:49,839
based on all the youtube videos that are

1102
00:41:54,870 --> 00:41:52,960
on you know him and i i don't know

1103
00:41:57,430 --> 00:41:54,880
he's always he's kind of always

1104
00:42:00,309 --> 00:41:57,440
crying broke right

1105
00:42:02,230 --> 00:42:00,319
oh yeah they argue he has to to keep the

1106
00:42:03,829 --> 00:42:02,240
con going and keeps people sending all

1107
00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:03,839
that money in

1108
00:42:07,990 --> 00:42:05,040
and uh

1109
00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:08,000
you know and i also thought about that

1110
00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:10,240
he has this one book that's all about

1111
00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:12,160
pete peterson's stories

1112
00:42:15,510 --> 00:42:13,680
and he's been selling that book for

1113
00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:15,520
years and i thought man that's a book

1114
00:42:20,069 --> 00:42:17,760
full of lies and he's buying that huge

1115
00:42:22,069 --> 00:42:20,079
house on a book full of lies that's

1116
00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:22,079
crazy you know

1117
00:42:24,870 --> 00:42:23,520
and here's a guy that claims to be

1118
00:42:27,270 --> 00:42:24,880
spiritual and talk

1119
00:42:29,990 --> 00:42:27,280
i've heard him talk about karma a lot of

1120
00:42:33,270 --> 00:42:30,000
different times he must never he must

1121
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:33,280
just not think about his own

1122
00:42:37,589 --> 00:42:35,280
you know i try to think of that like

1123
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:37,599
what do i i love psychology so i've

1124
00:42:41,430 --> 00:42:39,440
tried to think like

1125
00:42:43,670 --> 00:42:41,440
what is it that makes these people

1126
00:42:45,109 --> 00:42:43,680
justify what they're doing and there has

1127
00:42:47,910 --> 00:42:45,119
to be something inside of them

1128
00:42:49,990 --> 00:42:47,920
especially wilcock he doesn't

1129
00:42:52,309 --> 00:42:50,000
paint me i i don't think him as like an

1130
00:42:54,309 --> 00:42:52,319
evil person like he don't get that vibe

1131
00:42:55,750 --> 00:42:54,319
from him you know because he's very

1132
00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:55,760
sensitive

1133
00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:58,400
um himself like

1134
00:43:01,990 --> 00:43:00,000
who was i think it was jay that said

1135
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:02,000
that talking about him negatively is

1136
00:43:06,390 --> 00:43:04,319
like you physically harmed him

1137
00:43:08,790 --> 00:43:06,400
because he's a magnet i think he's a

1138
00:43:12,550 --> 00:43:08,800
mega narcissist that's what i think

1139
00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:12,560
you know and uh a mega narcissist cannot

1140
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:15,040
cannot withstand someone even if it's

1141
00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:17,520
valid criticism they can't they can't

1142
00:43:22,309 --> 00:43:20,400
take it you know no

1143
00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:22,319
yeah yeah

1144
00:43:26,150 --> 00:43:24,319
i try to think like what could it be and

1145
00:43:27,670 --> 00:43:26,160
i really think it's the spiritual stuff

1146
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:27,680
the message that they think that they're

1147
00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:30,640
presenting even if the blue avians and

1148
00:43:35,109 --> 00:43:32,640
all these other things that they talk

1149
00:43:35,910 --> 00:43:35,119
about isn't real it's the message behind

1150
00:43:37,510 --> 00:43:35,920
it

1151
00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:37,520
that they believe is

1152
00:43:43,430 --> 00:43:40,960
good which you know it's service to

1153
00:43:45,030 --> 00:43:43,440
others yeah just don't be a jerk

1154
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:45,040
i don't need to pay you to tell me not

1155
00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:47,839
to be a jerk i know not to be a jerk you

1156
00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:50,160
learn that in preschool hey listen he's

1157
00:43:53,990 --> 00:43:51,920
got a log he's got a million dollars

1158
00:43:56,069 --> 00:43:54,000
left to pay on that log cabin don't mess

1159
00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:56,079
it up for him i'm sure there's new books

1160
00:44:00,710 --> 00:43:57,760
coming i'm sure there's new lecture

1161
00:44:02,470 --> 00:44:00,720
tours new master classes

1162
00:44:04,550 --> 00:44:02,480
and oh well not only that muslim faith

1163
00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:04,560
has her stuff that she charges for

1164
00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:06,560
charges for her um

1165
00:44:11,109 --> 00:44:08,800
what do you call it uh the priestess

1166
00:44:13,270 --> 00:44:11,119
path or whatever like woman how to

1167
00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:13,280
become a woman warrior or something like

1168
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:16,319
that yes which i think yeah

1169
00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:18,640
you know one of the things that is

1170
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:20,240
interesting about his wife is that she

1171
00:44:24,230 --> 00:44:22,480
claimed to have all these

1172
00:44:26,630 --> 00:44:24,240
black belts and you found something

1173
00:44:29,430 --> 00:44:26,640
interesting about that too that i loved

1174
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:29,440
can you share that with us next

1175
00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:31,200
well like i said i looked in a little

1176
00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:34,400
bit on miss bethy and i found out that

1177
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:36,560
she was married to like her name

1178
00:44:41,589 --> 00:44:38,560
previously actually she was on her

1179
00:44:44,069 --> 00:44:41,599
witness base jimmy church she was on him

1180
00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:44,079
before wilcock uh before she married

1181
00:44:48,630 --> 00:44:46,800
wilcox she was on his show as best leone

1182
00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:48,640
or lyon or whatever

1183
00:44:54,069 --> 00:44:50,880
that's her mary's name she was married

1184
00:44:55,990 --> 00:44:54,079
to this guy who ran like five franchises

1185
00:44:57,589 --> 00:44:56,000
the zen wellness center

1186
00:44:59,670 --> 00:44:57,599
and

1187
00:45:01,349 --> 00:44:59,680
he's the one that basically that's how

1188
00:45:02,230 --> 00:45:01,359
she got her black belt

1189
00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:02,240
the

1190
00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:05,520
as in plural black belts or whatever so

1191
00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:08,240
it's like so the claim you know i have

1192
00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:09,440
five

1193
00:45:15,750 --> 00:45:12,400
black belts in various martial arts is

1194
00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:15,760
kind of misleading or at the very least

1195
00:45:19,510 --> 00:45:17,280
it's not as big of

1196
00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:19,520
an accomplishment when someone says that

1197
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:21,280
when you find out that all five of those

1198
00:45:27,270 --> 00:45:24,800
black belts came from her husband

1199
00:45:29,750 --> 00:45:27,280
well we all know that girl that banged

1200
00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:29,760
the manager and got a promotion

1201
00:45:34,470 --> 00:45:31,440
and that's exactly want to right

1202
00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:34,480
i didn't want to say that but yeah

1203
00:45:38,150 --> 00:45:36,480
yeah we all know that girl

1204
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:38,160
and look what she hey there's some guys

1205
00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:40,160
that do it too and look what she has to

1206
00:45:56,790 --> 00:45:53,829
she's getting those big conference

1207
00:45:58,870 --> 00:45:56,800
appearances though now so i guess yeah

1208
00:46:01,910 --> 00:45:58,880
maybe she traded up from a martial arts

1209
00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:01,920
guy to a cosmic con man i don't know but

1210
00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:03,920
it's interesting it was so interesting

1211
00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:05,920
to me to see this financial

1212
00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:07,760
thing going on with him it's like if

1213
00:46:12,309 --> 00:46:10,160
he's got 300 grand to put down that's

1214
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:12,319
not all the money he had he just that's

1215
00:46:16,069 --> 00:46:14,640
what he put down on that house so

1216
00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:16,079
it's funny to me

1217
00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:18,480
that this guy is worth that much money

1218
00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:20,800
running around telling these stories

1219
00:46:23,990 --> 00:46:22,000
it's crazy

1220
00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:24,000
right and i think that's just usually

1221
00:46:27,589 --> 00:46:25,760
like a minimum because i know when we

1222
00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:27,599
bought our house it was suggested to put

1223
00:46:34,790 --> 00:46:31,680
down 25 cash so i think that would be

1224
00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:34,800
a little more than you know justice 25

1225
00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:35,680
right

1226
00:46:40,230 --> 00:46:38,720
300 000 yeah so maybe he just put down

1227
00:46:42,790 --> 00:46:40,240
the minimum

1228
00:46:44,470 --> 00:46:42,800
i don't know if you know he had more

1229
00:46:45,829 --> 00:46:44,480
but yeah that's a lot of money to be

1230
00:46:48,069 --> 00:46:45,839
just hanging on

1231
00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:48,079
yeah three hundred thousand dollars yeah

1232
00:46:52,630 --> 00:46:50,319
and uh besides the loud cabin i'm sure

1233
00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:52,640
there's some acreage there i think i

1234
00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:54,720
don't remember but i'm sure like they

1235
00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:56,640
don't put a house that size on like one

1236
00:47:03,349 --> 00:46:59,040
acre you know what i mean so he's got

1237
00:47:04,790 --> 00:47:03,359
well i do know that those gal of people

1238
00:47:09,589 --> 00:47:04,800
that

1239
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:09,599
was rolling up in a bmw

1240
00:47:13,670 --> 00:47:11,760
but he said it was a rental and i guess

1241
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:13,680
nobody believed that i'm like

1242
00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:15,359
so

1243
00:47:19,349 --> 00:47:17,520
yeah and i had tried

1244
00:47:24,390 --> 00:47:19,359
i had found some stuff

1245
00:47:26,069 --> 00:47:24,400
uh about early very early david wilcock

1246
00:47:27,829 --> 00:47:26,079
when i was sort of doing my

1247
00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:27,839
investigation into him and his

1248
00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:30,160
background that really indicated that he

1249
00:47:35,430 --> 00:47:33,440
came from a very very affluent family

1250
00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:35,440
and i kind of get that if you listen to

1251
00:47:39,510 --> 00:47:37,680
him it's kind of like he's got this

1252
00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:39,520
sense of entitlement and that's why i

1253
00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:40,480
think

1254
00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:42,800
part of his con is he doesn't feel like

1255
00:47:47,430 --> 00:47:45,040
he should have to work like could you

1256
00:47:48,870 --> 00:47:47,440
imagine him like doing roofing for a few

1257
00:47:50,790 --> 00:47:48,880
days or something like that you know

1258
00:47:52,549 --> 00:47:50,800
what i mean like really working for a

1259
00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:52,559
living i don't think it's ever that's

1260
00:47:56,150 --> 00:47:55,040
what all these guys have in common to me

1261
00:47:59,430 --> 00:47:56,160
is that they don't want to get their

1262
00:48:02,390 --> 00:47:59,440
hands dirty like even corey good jordan

1263
00:48:04,950 --> 00:48:02,400
saver like you know

1264
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:04,960
it's just yeah they couldn't

1265
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:07,040
the i mean if you look at the corey

1266
00:48:12,549 --> 00:48:09,520
good's work history in particular just

1267
00:48:13,510 --> 00:48:12,559
as an example he bounces around a lot or

1268
00:48:15,910 --> 00:48:13,520
had

1269
00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:15,920
bounced around a lot so

1270
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:19,200
i i mean at normal jobs no these people

1271
00:48:23,190 --> 00:48:21,200
narcissists usually can't have normal

1272
00:48:24,870 --> 00:48:23,200
jobs

1273
00:48:26,230 --> 00:48:24,880
yeah well that's pretty interesting i

1274
00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:26,240
don't know and like corey goode worked

1275
00:48:30,710 --> 00:48:28,480
in i.t and i t you know i have a

1276
00:48:33,109 --> 00:48:30,720
background in computer science like

1277
00:48:34,390 --> 00:48:33,119
i.t jobs are usually really stable you

1278
00:48:36,549 --> 00:48:34,400
know like

1279
00:48:39,589 --> 00:48:36,559
yeah you get it you get a job in a good

1280
00:48:41,990 --> 00:48:39,599
place in it in the i.t department and

1281
00:48:43,829 --> 00:48:42,000
they got work for you and then if you

1282
00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:43,839
advance your education a little bit they

1283
00:48:46,870 --> 00:48:44,800
got

1284
00:48:49,190 --> 00:48:46,880
higher paying better work for you you

1285
00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:49,200
know they find a way to work with you

1286
00:48:52,870 --> 00:48:50,880
and uh

1287
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:52,880
better than in most other areas of

1288
00:48:56,710 --> 00:48:54,480
corporate life it's the best you're

1289
00:48:58,950 --> 00:48:56,720
gonna do i t so it was surprising to me

1290
00:49:01,430 --> 00:48:58,960
that he worked in it and he just

1291
00:49:03,910 --> 00:49:01,440
job the job the job the job the job

1292
00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:03,920
that's not usual that's not a usual

1293
00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:06,160
thing with somebody that's a career i.t

1294
00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:07,680
person

1295
00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:10,079
and and wasn't it he left because like a

1296
00:49:14,630 --> 00:49:12,400
server fell on his league or something

1297
00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:14,640
yeah i heard a story about that and then

1298
00:49:19,270 --> 00:49:16,880
he kind of harassed his employer over

1299
00:49:21,109 --> 00:49:19,280
getting uh disability or something like

1300
00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:21,119
that and then they got a lifetime

1301
00:49:26,870 --> 00:49:24,240
restraining order filed against him

1302
00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:26,880
like there you go god he's like a loser

1303
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:28,160
yeah

1304
00:49:33,030 --> 00:49:29,440
you work

1305
00:49:33,910 --> 00:49:33,040
your leg for

1306
00:49:35,990 --> 00:49:33,920
yeah

1307
00:49:38,309 --> 00:49:36,000
i could sit at a bench and do my job or

1308
00:49:39,270 --> 00:49:38,319
sit in a chair and do my most of my job

1309
00:49:41,349 --> 00:49:39,280
you know

1310
00:49:43,270 --> 00:49:41,359
like what's going on here like i

1311
00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:43,280
literally fell through a ceiling and

1312
00:49:47,030 --> 00:49:45,760
broke my back and i was back to work

1313
00:49:48,870 --> 00:49:47,040
within

1314
00:49:51,750 --> 00:49:48,880
four weeks after

1315
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:51,760
i was hospitalized for a week like

1316
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:53,280
literally

1317
00:49:56,870 --> 00:49:54,960
yeah i think he just maybe should just

1318
00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:56,880
try to take advantage of the situation

1319
00:50:00,230 --> 00:49:58,720
you know like some guys do that like

1320
00:50:01,510 --> 00:50:00,240
they get a little injury at work and

1321
00:50:04,150 --> 00:50:01,520
they think they're going to take a year

1322
00:50:05,430 --> 00:50:04,160
off on 80 pay on disability or so i

1323
00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:05,440
don't know i don't know what happened

1324
00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:07,280
that's just speculation

1325
00:50:12,230 --> 00:50:08,800
you know but

1326
00:50:14,549 --> 00:50:12,240
it's crazy and then you know i don't

1327
00:50:16,950 --> 00:50:14,559
know he he kind of like you said he just

1328
00:50:19,910 --> 00:50:16,960
bounced around and uh

1329
00:50:21,349 --> 00:50:19,920
that's really strange and now he's going

1330
00:50:23,030 --> 00:50:21,359
on to just

1331
00:50:25,829 --> 00:50:23,040
i don't know running these conferences

1332
00:50:28,150 --> 00:50:25,839
which i heard uh this last conference

1333
00:50:30,549 --> 00:50:28,160
thing he ran was not very well attended

1334
00:50:32,069 --> 00:50:30,559
and it was you know

1335
00:50:34,230 --> 00:50:32,079
i don't know

1336
00:50:36,309 --> 00:50:34,240
dimensions of disclosure yeah yeah i

1337
00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:36,319
heard it wasn't as well attended as he

1338
00:50:40,950 --> 00:50:38,240
said because i called the hotel or

1339
00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:40,960
something as i recall the

1340
00:50:45,109 --> 00:50:43,280
the room that they were having the

1341
00:50:46,870 --> 00:50:45,119
you know like the talks in didn't even

1342
00:50:48,790 --> 00:50:46,880
hold as many people as he said were

1343
00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:48,800
there right

1344
00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:50,800
it held like a third i think he said it

1345
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:53,200
was sold out 600 people and the room

1346
00:50:57,510 --> 00:50:55,920
only hold had 200 seats in it so that

1347
00:50:59,349 --> 00:50:57,520
doesn't make any sense

1348
00:51:00,950 --> 00:50:59,359
if you if you had 600 people at a

1349
00:51:03,510 --> 00:51:00,960
conference they're all going to be in

1350
00:51:04,549 --> 00:51:03,520
that room when the lectures happen you

1351
00:51:05,829 --> 00:51:04,559
know they pay

1352
00:51:07,589 --> 00:51:05,839
for the headliners

1353
00:51:10,150 --> 00:51:07,599
paid to be there and they can't because

1354
00:51:12,950 --> 00:51:10,160
it only has a few hundred seats

1355
00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:12,960
you know so i think that was what is

1356
00:51:16,870 --> 00:51:15,440
commonly called a vanity show if you

1357
00:51:20,069 --> 00:51:16,880
know anything about the entertainment

1358
00:51:21,990 --> 00:51:20,079
business a vanity show is when

1359
00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:22,000
you're not gonna make any money but it

1360
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:23,920
looks good for you it looks good for

1361
00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:25,440
your career

1362
00:51:30,150 --> 00:51:27,280
i spent right especially with the movie

1363
00:51:31,910 --> 00:51:30,160
coming out i spent years of my life

1364
00:51:35,109 --> 00:51:31,920
doing magic shows

1365
00:51:36,470 --> 00:51:35,119
and uh there's a lot of vanity shows in

1366
00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:36,480
magic shows

1367
00:51:40,790 --> 00:51:38,960
you know it's like

1368
00:51:42,790 --> 00:51:40,800
listen there's this huge event at a

1369
00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:42,800
children's hospital right in the town

1370
00:51:47,349 --> 00:51:44,720
that you're gonna do the show in the

1371
00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:47,359
next week so you gotta run in there and

1372
00:51:51,510 --> 00:51:50,000
do a show for that you know for free but

1373
00:51:53,829 --> 00:51:51,520
it's going to get you all this publicity

1374
00:51:56,069 --> 00:51:53,839
it never really works out

1375
00:51:57,430 --> 00:51:56,079
to your advantage but that's a vanity

1376
00:51:59,270 --> 00:51:57,440
show it's just something you got to do

1377
00:52:01,510 --> 00:51:59,280
to look good

1378
00:52:03,270 --> 00:52:01,520
until you get to the next payday that's

1379
00:52:05,349 --> 00:52:03,280
what i feel right that's what i feel

1380
00:52:06,710 --> 00:52:05,359
that this was it was his

1381
00:52:09,190 --> 00:52:06,720
vanity show

1382
00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:09,200
look why i don't need those i don't need

1383
00:52:13,430 --> 00:52:11,040
those other conferences that now won't

1384
00:52:15,270 --> 00:52:13,440
hire me because i'm such an you know

1385
00:52:17,430 --> 00:52:15,280
so hard to work with i'll run my own

1386
00:52:18,710 --> 00:52:17,440
conference and you know

1387
00:52:22,230 --> 00:52:18,720
i think he thinks it's going to step

1388
00:52:24,230 --> 00:52:22,240
stone into something bigger we'll see

1389
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:24,240
well i do remember during the live

1390
00:52:27,829 --> 00:52:26,079
stream on

1391
00:52:29,349 --> 00:52:27,839
medicare wonders channel i believe or

1392
00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:29,359
steering i don't remember one of their

1393
00:52:34,710 --> 00:52:31,680
youtube and then no but not then the

1394
00:52:38,710 --> 00:52:34,720
other one rob had said oh we sold like

1395
00:52:40,309 --> 00:52:38,720
1500 live stream tickets and immediately

1396
00:52:42,950 --> 00:52:40,319
cory was just like no we said way more

1397
00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:42,960
than that yeah i heard it was way more

1398
00:52:47,030 --> 00:52:44,880
than that like

1399
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:47,040
you know like really fluffing it up like

1400
00:52:52,230 --> 00:52:50,160
1500 was such a low number especially

1401
00:52:53,589 --> 00:52:52,240
wasn't it 111

1402
00:52:54,710 --> 00:52:53,599
or something like that to watch this

1403
00:52:55,990 --> 00:52:54,720
thing so

1404
00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:56,000
even if they got

1405
00:53:01,349 --> 00:52:58,800
1500 that would be a big that would be a

1406
00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:01,359
pretty good chunk of money

1407
00:53:05,589 --> 00:53:03,520
for not having to seat people or see

1408
00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:05,599
anybody or talk to anybody or anything

1409
00:53:08,309 --> 00:53:06,880
like you don't have to actually do any

1410
00:53:11,829 --> 00:53:08,319
work with these people you're already

1411
00:53:14,950 --> 00:53:11,839
doing it anyway you know

1412
00:53:17,109 --> 00:53:14,960
111 dollars of yeah fifteen hundred

1413
00:53:18,790 --> 00:53:17,119
that's ugh

1414
00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:18,800
my god and then when anybody whenever

1415
00:53:25,829 --> 00:53:20,160
they do the live streams they have

1416
00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:27,910
and that's that's an interesting point

1417
00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:30,000
that we should just return to quickly

1418
00:53:35,030 --> 00:53:32,800
with this edge of wonder boys or that

1419
00:53:37,030 --> 00:53:35,040
you know these guys are always going oh

1420
00:53:39,109 --> 00:53:37,040
you guys are helping you know cw

1421
00:53:40,870 --> 00:53:39,119
channelers really who discover this that

1422
00:53:42,630 --> 00:53:40,880
they're always always pushing those

1423
00:53:43,990 --> 00:53:42,640
super chat donations you guys help keep

1424
00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:44,000
the lights on

1425
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:46,559
and i don't i don't believe that they

1426
00:53:49,589 --> 00:53:48,720
could be making enough if you do the

1427
00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:49,599
math

1428
00:53:53,910 --> 00:53:51,119
they could not be making enough from

1429
00:53:56,230 --> 00:53:53,920
that youtube channel to take care of

1430
00:53:57,990 --> 00:53:56,240
just the two of them to give them each a

1431
00:54:00,230 --> 00:53:58,000
decent salary

1432
00:54:01,750 --> 00:54:00,240
uh and live in new york which you

1433
00:54:03,589 --> 00:54:01,760
pointed out you're right it's the most

1434
00:54:06,870 --> 00:54:03,599
expensive city in the united states to

1435
00:54:07,990 --> 00:54:06,880
live in a bagel is not a bagel is nine

1436
00:54:08,829 --> 00:54:08,000
dollars

1437
00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:08,839
you know

1438
00:54:13,109 --> 00:54:11,520
yeah so no that's what pat said he's

1439
00:54:14,630 --> 00:54:13,119
like david because he he lived in new

1440
00:54:16,150 --> 00:54:14,640
york totally and then i wanted to talk

1441
00:54:19,510 --> 00:54:16,160
about you

1442
00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:19,520
you and i had two other people email me

1443
00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:21,200
about the fact that the edge of wonder

1444
00:54:23,510 --> 00:54:22,480
boys had

1445
00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:23,520
asian

1446
00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:26,000
assistance with them the whole time that

1447
00:54:29,910 --> 00:54:28,240
they were at this disclosure conference

1448
00:54:32,150 --> 00:54:29,920
run by corey goode

1449
00:54:33,510 --> 00:54:32,160
so the notion that they deny that they

1450
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:33,520
have

1451
00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:35,040
an affiliate well i don't think they

1452
00:54:39,430 --> 00:54:37,200
deny that they're affiliated with falun

1453
00:54:41,270 --> 00:54:39,440
gong the chinese

1454
00:54:42,549 --> 00:54:41,280
spiritual movement

1455
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:42,559
but

1456
00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:44,240
they kind of say that that doesn't have

1457
00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:46,079
anything to do with our channel and here

1458
00:54:50,069 --> 00:54:47,520
they are with

1459
00:54:52,390 --> 00:54:50,079
all these assistants

1460
00:54:55,270 --> 00:54:52,400
that are all of asian descent come to

1461
00:54:57,910 --> 00:54:55,280
find out they're all falun gong cult

1462
00:55:01,510 --> 00:55:00,069
so you know i

1463
00:55:03,430 --> 00:55:01,520
point this out and

1464
00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:03,440
a few people including you point this

1465
00:55:06,470 --> 00:55:05,520
out to me and i go yeah that's really

1466
00:55:08,870 --> 00:55:06,480
strange

1467
00:55:11,589 --> 00:55:08,880
you know and uh

1468
00:55:14,309 --> 00:55:11,599
i was corrected by someone on this and

1469
00:55:17,349 --> 00:55:14,319
told no no they're not cult members or

1470
00:55:19,270 --> 00:55:17,359
servants they're employees

1471
00:55:21,030 --> 00:55:19,280
and what was there do you recall how

1472
00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:21,040
many there was i think there was like

1473
00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:23,280
six or eight of them right

1474
00:55:27,670 --> 00:55:25,200
yeah it was a good amount like it was

1475
00:55:30,309 --> 00:55:27,680
more than five i'd say

1476
00:55:32,630 --> 00:55:30,319
so the person that i spoke to about this

1477
00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:32,640
that's friends with them i said well are

1478
00:55:37,510 --> 00:55:34,319
those full-time employees yeah they're

1479
00:55:39,990 --> 00:55:37,520
full-time employees okay so that means

1480
00:55:40,870 --> 00:55:40,000
that these guys have to be paying

1481
00:55:42,549 --> 00:55:40,880
eight

1482
00:55:44,390 --> 00:55:42,559
assistance production assistance you

1483
00:55:46,470 --> 00:55:44,400
know this person corrected me like all

1484
00:55:48,150 --> 00:55:46,480
that this person helps with the cameras

1485
00:55:49,589 --> 00:55:48,160
and so they're all production assistants

1486
00:55:51,829 --> 00:55:49,599
to help them create their show or

1487
00:55:53,910 --> 00:55:51,839
whatever that's that's six or eight

1488
00:55:56,069 --> 00:55:53,920
full-time employees plus the two show

1489
00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:56,079
hosts all have to earn a full-time

1490
00:56:00,390 --> 00:55:58,319
living according to them off of their

1491
00:56:02,309 --> 00:56:00,400
youtube channel

1492
00:56:04,710 --> 00:56:02,319
i don't think that it's mathematically

1493
00:56:07,109 --> 00:56:04,720
possible for them to not be getting

1494
00:56:09,829 --> 00:56:07,119
money from another source or be backed

1495
00:56:12,470 --> 00:56:09,839
by someone like this chinese cult what

1496
00:56:14,470 --> 00:56:12,480
do you think about that

1497
00:56:15,589 --> 00:56:14,480
i'm like literally in soccer right now

1498
00:56:17,670 --> 00:56:15,599
though they

1499
00:56:19,990 --> 00:56:17,680
they work for

1500
00:56:22,230 --> 00:56:20,000
ben and rob or for edge of wonder

1501
00:56:24,950 --> 00:56:22,240
because i know they have the one guy who

1502
00:56:27,990 --> 00:56:24,960
is a producer the eric guy yeah he's a

1503
00:56:30,630 --> 00:56:28,000
producer for the ntd i was told that

1504
00:56:32,069 --> 00:56:30,640
they work for ben and rob for

1505
00:56:32,870 --> 00:56:32,079
but wow

1506
00:56:35,430 --> 00:56:32,880
so

1507
00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:35,440
why do they have eight

1508
00:56:39,829 --> 00:56:37,920
uh employees that are all

1509
00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:39,839
six or eight i don't know employees that

1510
00:56:43,910 --> 00:56:42,319
are all members of this chinese cult if

1511
00:56:46,630 --> 00:56:43,920
the chinese cult doesn't have any

1512
00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:46,640
involvement with their

1513
00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:49,200
channel right

1514
00:56:52,549 --> 00:56:50,400
i mean

1515
00:56:55,510 --> 00:56:52,559
it would i could be wrong people can

1516
00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:55,520
correct me but this is what some of the

1517
00:56:59,430 --> 00:56:57,119
things that we're finding and if you do

1518
00:57:01,670 --> 00:56:59,440
the math there's no way that they could

1519
00:57:04,630 --> 00:57:01,680
not be getting backing from an outside

1520
00:57:07,109 --> 00:57:04,640
source to support that many people full

1521
00:57:09,589 --> 00:57:07,119
time in new york there's just not it's

1522
00:57:12,470 --> 00:57:09,599
just not well it's not possible

1523
00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:12,480
like i said they are still on the epoch

1524
00:57:17,670 --> 00:57:14,720
times website

1525
00:57:18,950 --> 00:57:17,680
as employees i mean

1526
00:57:20,870 --> 00:57:18,960
i don't know how that works that they

1527
00:57:22,870 --> 00:57:20,880
have to continue to credit them but i

1528
00:57:25,589 --> 00:57:22,880
mean they have ben's

1529
00:57:26,549 --> 00:57:25,599
face right up there like

1530
00:57:27,349 --> 00:57:26,559
you know

1531
00:57:40,470 --> 00:57:27,359
i

1532
00:57:42,390 --> 00:57:40,480
you know uh

1533
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:42,400
i just don't see two people living in

1534
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:45,119
manhattan quitting their job on hope and

1535
00:57:49,670 --> 00:57:47,440
faith and youtube pennies

1536
00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:49,680
yes yeah and you know

1537
00:57:55,270 --> 00:57:52,160
but see coming to the conclusion that

1538
00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:55,280
yes they have to be being funded or

1539
00:57:59,670 --> 00:57:58,000
supported by either epoch times or by

1540
00:58:02,230 --> 00:57:59,680
this falun gong

1541
00:58:04,789 --> 00:58:02,240
religious organization directly or some

1542
00:58:06,309 --> 00:58:04,799
kind of employees of them

1543
00:58:08,069 --> 00:58:06,319
so but once you do come to that

1544
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:08,079
conclusion that that's what's happening

1545
00:58:11,589 --> 00:58:09,359
here

1546
00:58:13,829 --> 00:58:11,599
the big question is why

1547
00:58:16,309 --> 00:58:13,839
why is a chinese cult

1548
00:58:17,670 --> 00:58:16,319
funding two

1549
00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:17,680
white guys

1550
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:20,640
to start a channel about conspiracies

1551
00:58:23,990 --> 00:58:22,559
and aliens and all this stuff and it

1552
00:58:26,150 --> 00:58:24,000
should be noted that the chinese cult

1553
00:58:28,630 --> 00:58:26,160
does believe in aliens they do they

1554
00:58:30,950 --> 00:58:28,640
believe a lot of crazy things but aliens

1555
00:58:32,710 --> 00:58:30,960
you and as well yes

1556
00:58:35,349 --> 00:58:32,720
they talk about q and all that kind

1557
00:58:37,910 --> 00:58:35,359
maybe i don't know why though a chinese

1558
00:58:40,230 --> 00:58:37,920
cult would do that and put money they're

1559
00:58:42,870 --> 00:58:40,240
putting money into this thing the

1560
00:58:45,349 --> 00:58:42,880
chinese cult falun gong has a great deal

1561
00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:45,359
of financial resources and they are

1562
00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:47,760
dumping a lot of them into these two

1563
00:58:51,349 --> 00:58:49,680
guys apparently

1564
00:58:53,750 --> 00:58:51,359
why would they do that and they just so

1565
00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:53,760
happen to live you know where the

1566
00:58:56,789 --> 00:58:55,520
uh founder

1567
00:58:57,990 --> 00:58:56,799
also lives

1568
00:58:59,430 --> 00:58:58,000
in new york

1569
00:59:01,270 --> 00:58:59,440
so

1570
00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:01,280
i don't know it's just a little

1571
00:59:05,430 --> 00:59:02,960
you know like i said it's it's

1572
00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:05,440
hypocritical it's double standard if the

1573
00:59:10,069 --> 00:59:08,079
other side were doing something like

1574
00:59:12,309 --> 00:59:10,079
this they would be connecting all these

1575
00:59:14,230 --> 00:59:12,319
dots and saying look look look they have

1576
00:59:16,710 --> 00:59:14,240
a cult funding them and this is

1577
00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:16,720
connected to this and you know they

1578
00:59:21,109 --> 00:59:19,440
would be if this if the shoe was on the

1579
00:59:22,789 --> 00:59:21,119
other foot you know what i mean

1580
00:59:24,390 --> 00:59:22,799
absolutely

1581
00:59:26,549 --> 00:59:24,400
well steena now is a good time for us to

1582
00:59:28,230 --> 00:59:26,559
take a break a short break for station

1583
00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:28,240
identification and a word from our

1584
00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:31,440
sponsors we'll be right back

1585
00:59:35,990 --> 00:59:33,040
well friends before the break we were

1586
00:59:38,230 --> 00:59:36,000
talking about the edge of wonder boys so

1587
00:59:41,430 --> 00:59:38,240
let's get right back to it

1588
00:59:44,230 --> 00:59:41,440
and i have to say uh just out of respect

1589
00:59:46,069 --> 00:59:44,240
and put it on the record i uh edge of

1590
00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:46,079
wonder i think blocked me on twitter and

1591
00:59:51,910 --> 00:59:48,240
so did one of those guys but the ben guy

1592
00:59:53,510 --> 00:59:51,920
didn't block me yet so i asked him these

1593
00:59:55,829 --> 00:59:53,520
questions directly

1594
00:59:58,309 --> 00:59:55,839
like how are you pay are you are these

1595
00:59:59,190 --> 00:59:58,319
employees of yours how are you paying

1596
01:00:01,109 --> 00:59:59,200
them

1597
01:00:02,789 --> 01:00:01,119
you know

1598
01:00:04,150 --> 01:00:02,799
are you supporting all this just on your

1599
01:00:06,950 --> 01:00:04,160
youtube channel is that what you're

1600
01:00:08,630 --> 01:00:06,960
really saying he never got back to me

1601
01:00:10,309 --> 01:00:08,640
and i'm open to a conversation with him

1602
01:00:12,230 --> 01:00:10,319
he come on my show we can talk about

1603
01:00:15,430 --> 01:00:12,240
this i don't think that's gonna happen

1604
01:00:17,510 --> 01:00:15,440
but him or his co-host or somebody yeah

1605
01:00:19,829 --> 01:00:17,520
him or his co-host you're you're welcome

1606
01:00:22,390 --> 01:00:19,839
and i'll be respectful and i but i will

1607
01:00:24,950 --> 01:00:22,400
god i have questions

1608
01:00:27,190 --> 01:00:24,960
well yeah i i think that's actually why

1609
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:27,200
rob is there full time now i think that

1610
01:00:31,510 --> 01:00:29,200
they started it with ben

1611
01:00:32,950 --> 01:00:31,520
and they realized oh god this guy's not

1612
01:00:34,789 --> 01:00:32,960
cutting it we need to send in some

1613
01:00:37,030 --> 01:00:34,799
reinforcements we need to get some

1614
01:00:39,349 --> 01:00:37,040
because he just he needs to have his mic

1615
01:00:42,470 --> 01:00:39,359
cut off sometimes because he says some

1616
01:00:45,030 --> 01:00:42,480
stuff that is just

1617
01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:45,040
yeah okay i heard him talking about gay

1618
01:00:49,109 --> 01:00:46,720
men or something somebody sent me some

1619
01:00:52,390 --> 01:00:49,119
clips about him talking about gay men

1620
01:00:55,270 --> 01:00:52,400
and uh it was bad it was really bad

1621
01:00:59,190 --> 01:00:55,280
especially for a a group that's like

1622
01:01:01,349 --> 01:00:59,200
trying to get the new age kind of people

1623
01:01:04,309 --> 01:01:01,359
you tell a bunch of new age people that

1624
01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:04,319
being gay is evil or something like that

1625
01:01:08,950 --> 01:01:07,280
that's bad for business yeah that's what

1626
01:01:12,470 --> 01:01:08,960
falun gong believes though they don't

1627
01:01:15,510 --> 01:01:12,480
believe in homosexuality yeah and yeah

1628
01:01:16,390 --> 01:01:15,520
you can literally hear rob gasp

1629
01:01:19,270 --> 01:01:16,400
when

1630
01:01:20,549 --> 01:01:19,280
ben starts coming out with the dark gay

1631
01:01:21,910 --> 01:01:20,559
agenda

1632
01:01:22,829 --> 01:01:21,920
is what he says

1633
01:01:27,349 --> 01:01:22,839
and then he's

1634
01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:29,190
you know oh gosh and that's not even the

1635
01:01:33,750 --> 01:01:30,720
first time i have a version he said

1636
01:01:35,910 --> 01:01:33,760
stuff like that somebody asked me about

1637
01:01:39,109 --> 01:01:35,920
you know what are your views on gay

1638
01:01:40,710 --> 01:01:39,119
people and i say do what you want just

1639
01:01:43,030 --> 01:01:40,720
don't hurt anyone if it doesn't hurt

1640
01:01:46,470 --> 01:01:43,040
anyone if you're happy doing that good

1641
01:01:48,390 --> 01:01:46,480
for you i i don't like interference

1642
01:01:50,230 --> 01:01:48,400
either religious or governmental and

1643
01:01:52,150 --> 01:01:50,240
anything like that let people do what

1644
01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:52,160
they're doing yeah but by the same token

1645
01:01:54,789 --> 01:01:53,920
don't bother me either

1646
01:01:58,549 --> 01:01:54,799
you know

1647
01:02:00,150 --> 01:01:58,559
yeah yeah like i i'm very like whatever

1648
01:02:01,750 --> 01:02:00,160
it's the same thing like as long as you

1649
01:02:03,910 --> 01:02:01,760
ain't hurting nobody and you ain't jerk

1650
01:02:05,589 --> 01:02:03,920
whatever just you do you like

1651
01:02:07,109 --> 01:02:05,599
you know i'm

1652
01:02:11,589 --> 01:02:07,119
i don't care

1653
01:02:13,750 --> 01:02:11,599
funny that you're right like he has said

1654
01:02:15,190 --> 01:02:13,760
some stupid really stupid things so

1655
01:02:17,349 --> 01:02:15,200
maybe that other guy's there for the

1656
01:02:20,150 --> 01:02:17,359
damage control or to shut him up when he

1657
01:02:21,910 --> 01:02:20,160
starts that stuff i don't know uh huh

1658
01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:21,920
that's what i think it is and then it

1659
01:02:25,510 --> 01:02:24,000
just started to snowball and they were

1660
01:02:27,670 --> 01:02:25,520
like look we're gonna take you from the

1661
01:02:29,349 --> 01:02:27,680
art department and you're gonna

1662
01:02:31,029 --> 01:02:29,359
leave your job as director but we'll

1663
01:02:34,870 --> 01:02:31,039
make it worth your while we need you to

1664
01:02:36,870 --> 01:02:34,880
keep an eye on benny boy

1665
01:02:39,430 --> 01:02:36,880
that's my opinion

1666
01:02:41,990 --> 01:02:39,440
so so he's got his own handler now i

1667
01:02:45,029 --> 01:02:42,000
guess that's kind of funny basically

1668
01:02:47,349 --> 01:02:45,039
yeah and i think corey's uh as david's

1669
01:02:49,670 --> 01:02:47,359
new handler because do you see

1670
01:02:52,150 --> 01:02:49,680
those looks he gives him when those two

1671
01:02:54,630 --> 01:02:52,160
are around each other lately yeah and

1672
01:02:58,069 --> 01:02:54,640
it's like a bro

1673
01:03:04,789 --> 01:03:01,430
yeah that that's like like we've all

1674
01:03:06,470 --> 01:03:04,799
seen you know that that domestic dispute

1675
01:03:08,230 --> 01:03:06,480
out in public like you know you're

1676
01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:08,240
frequenting walmart and stuff and you

1677
01:03:12,630 --> 01:03:10,960
see the dude give the lady the look like

1678
01:03:14,549 --> 01:03:12,640
girl don't you say nothing like that's

1679
01:03:20,390 --> 01:03:14,559
the look you give

1680
01:03:24,630 --> 01:03:22,710
yeah i i kind of wondered a few times

1681
01:03:26,230 --> 01:03:24,640
like what is the deal with those two and

1682
01:03:29,510 --> 01:03:26,240
i kind of came to the conclusion that

1683
01:03:30,630 --> 01:03:29,520
being a cosmic con man is like a lonely

1684
01:03:33,750 --> 01:03:30,640
kind of

1685
01:03:35,670 --> 01:03:33,760
difficult at times life it's great money

1686
01:03:37,990 --> 01:03:35,680
but you gotta like make up all these

1687
01:03:40,390 --> 01:03:38,000
stories and you gotta keep the ball

1688
01:03:42,950 --> 01:03:40,400
rolling and i think those two found that

1689
01:03:45,270 --> 01:03:42,960
kind of kinship like

1690
01:03:47,589 --> 01:03:45,280
let's roll up this con together and then

1691
01:03:49,029 --> 01:03:47,599
we can have some fun you know

1692
01:03:52,549 --> 01:03:49,039
i think right

1693
01:03:54,549 --> 01:03:52,559
zen from uh on spirituality who said

1694
01:03:56,789 --> 01:03:54,559
he thinks the two of them just got

1695
01:03:59,190 --> 01:03:56,799
together smoking a bowl one night or

1696
01:04:01,109 --> 01:03:59,200
drinking some beers and like how about

1697
01:04:03,589 --> 01:04:01,119
we say this and how about we say that

1698
01:04:05,430 --> 01:04:03,599
and yeah that'll work these people will

1699
01:04:07,670 --> 01:04:05,440
believe anything those two just got

1700
01:04:09,990 --> 01:04:07,680
together hatched this whole thing and

1701
01:04:11,029 --> 01:04:10,000
here we are

1702
01:04:15,910 --> 01:04:11,039
yeah

1703
01:04:19,750 --> 01:04:17,829
only instead of waking up the next day

1704
01:04:21,670 --> 01:04:19,760
and being like dude we were so messed up

1705
01:04:23,510 --> 01:04:21,680
last night they were just like

1706
01:04:25,750 --> 01:04:23,520
dude so last night

1707
01:04:28,230 --> 01:04:25,760
let's do this you know they they went

1708
01:04:30,069 --> 01:04:28,240
way too far with it and kept it going

1709
01:04:32,069 --> 01:04:30,079
and here we are

1710
01:04:34,230 --> 01:04:32,079
how many years later too many years

1711
01:04:38,230 --> 01:04:34,240
later

1712
01:04:40,390 --> 01:04:38,240
too many yeah and i just you know i just

1713
01:04:41,829 --> 01:04:40,400
i gotta tell you

1714
01:04:43,430 --> 01:04:41,839
i think we kind of talked about this a

1715
01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:43,440
little bit off air but i don't mind

1716
01:04:46,870 --> 01:04:44,960
letting my listeners know that i'm

1717
01:04:49,190 --> 01:04:46,880
getting sick of this stuff like i'm

1718
01:04:51,270 --> 01:04:49,200
getting sick of looking into these guys

1719
01:04:53,349 --> 01:04:51,280
because i think the way that i used to

1720
01:04:55,029 --> 01:04:53,359
do things before i started my show is i

1721
01:04:57,190 --> 01:04:55,039
would take an information source a

1722
01:04:58,309 --> 01:04:57,200
lecturer an author whoever right and

1723
01:05:02,470 --> 01:04:58,319
then

1724
01:05:03,430 --> 01:05:02,480
would look into them

1725
01:05:05,829 --> 01:05:03,440
and then

1726
01:05:07,430 --> 01:05:05,839
see if they were credible and their

1727
01:05:08,789 --> 01:05:07,440
information they were presenting could

1728
01:05:10,549 --> 01:05:08,799
be trusted

1729
01:05:12,390 --> 01:05:10,559
and as as soon as i made that

1730
01:05:14,950 --> 01:05:12,400
determination that they weren't they

1731
01:05:16,549 --> 01:05:14,960
were off my plate forever you know and i

1732
01:05:18,470 --> 01:05:16,559
moved on to the next

1733
01:05:20,309 --> 01:05:18,480
and now it seems because the show people

1734
01:05:22,069 --> 01:05:20,319
like to hear about this stuff but by the

1735
01:05:24,950 --> 01:05:22,079
same token it's like beating a dead

1736
01:05:27,510 --> 01:05:24,960
horse like how many things can we show

1737
01:05:30,150 --> 01:05:27,520
that prove these people are frauds

1738
01:05:32,710 --> 01:05:30,160
and it's amazing it's right

1739
01:05:34,789 --> 01:05:32,720
some people don't care don't do we have

1740
01:05:36,309 --> 01:05:34,799
this uh what is this guy on twitter me

1741
01:05:38,789 --> 01:05:36,319
and you kind of went back and forth with

1742
01:05:41,670 --> 01:05:38,799
this guy this j-rod guy

1743
01:05:43,990 --> 01:05:41,680
he is just he's just a true believer it

1744
01:05:46,950 --> 01:05:44,000
doesn't matter what information you show

1745
01:05:48,710 --> 01:05:46,960
him it doesn't matter how incriminating

1746
01:05:52,789 --> 01:05:48,720
anything you show him about these con

1747
01:05:54,789 --> 01:05:52,799
men is he has an excuse for it and

1748
01:05:56,950 --> 01:05:54,799
they're you know they're just trying to

1749
01:05:59,190 --> 01:05:56,960
make a living i think he said things

1750
01:06:01,430 --> 01:05:59,200
like that it's crazy that people still

1751
01:06:03,349 --> 01:06:01,440
believe these guys

1752
01:06:05,349 --> 01:06:03,359
yeah well with j rock sometimes i don't

1753
01:06:07,670 --> 01:06:05,359
even think he believes them i think that

1754
01:06:10,069 --> 01:06:07,680
he just likes it for the troll of it all

1755
01:06:12,789 --> 01:06:10,079
he just likes being on the side that you

1756
01:06:15,109 --> 01:06:12,799
know is obviously unbelievable to you

1757
01:06:17,109 --> 01:06:15,119
know brush up on his trolling

1758
01:06:19,029 --> 01:06:17,119
uh skills

1759
01:06:20,950 --> 01:06:19,039
he's not such a i don't know it's just

1760
01:06:23,029 --> 01:06:20,960
but i used him as an example there's

1761
01:06:25,589 --> 01:06:23,039
tons more that i could cite oh there's

1762
01:06:28,710 --> 01:06:25,599
some of these people hundreds of them i

1763
01:06:31,270 --> 01:06:28,720
mean they are die hard die hard i

1764
01:06:34,069 --> 01:06:31,280
stopped giving the email address for the

1765
01:06:35,670 --> 01:06:34,079
show here i used to give it all the time

1766
01:06:37,750 --> 01:06:35,680
if you you know if you want to email me

1767
01:06:40,150 --> 01:06:37,760
here's the email i i'm not doing that

1768
01:06:42,710 --> 01:06:40,160
anymore because now i get just a flood

1769
01:06:43,910 --> 01:06:42,720
of people telling me how wrong i am

1770
01:06:46,789 --> 01:06:43,920
and it's

1771
01:06:48,069 --> 01:06:46,799
you know it's sad some of these people

1772
01:06:50,150 --> 01:06:48,079
are really

1773
01:06:51,990 --> 01:06:50,160
i think just looking for something you

1774
01:06:53,990 --> 01:06:52,000
know like they have a void in their life

1775
01:06:55,430 --> 01:06:54,000
and that fills it so

1776
01:06:58,069 --> 01:06:55,440
they don't absolutely they don't want

1777
01:06:59,829 --> 01:06:58,079
the illusion shattered but i see that

1778
01:07:01,750 --> 01:06:59,839
you're making some progress and

1779
01:07:04,870 --> 01:07:01,760
congratulations you started making some

1780
01:07:05,990 --> 01:07:04,880
videos how has that been

1781
01:07:08,950 --> 01:07:06,000
um

1782
01:07:11,990 --> 01:07:08,960
it started as just not wanting to make a

1783
01:07:13,589 --> 01:07:12,000
long twitter post and it snowballed into

1784
01:07:15,670 --> 01:07:13,599
you know this my daughter texted me

1785
01:07:18,390 --> 01:07:15,680
today and she's like oh my gosh you

1786
01:07:20,549 --> 01:07:18,400
almost have 100 subscribers like she's

1787
01:07:25,029 --> 01:07:20,559
all excited we could go to vidcon next

1788
01:07:27,750 --> 01:07:25,829
because

1789
01:07:29,029 --> 01:07:27,760
people people should know that we you

1790
01:07:31,270 --> 01:07:29,039
and i talked about you're going to

1791
01:07:33,589 --> 01:07:31,280
become sort of like a contributor on my

1792
01:07:35,109 --> 01:07:33,599
show here but i thought

1793
01:07:36,549 --> 01:07:35,119
yeah and i thought for the first one

1794
01:07:37,750 --> 01:07:36,559
though that you've been doing so much

1795
01:07:39,589 --> 01:07:37,760
work that we'll just have a whole

1796
01:07:41,829 --> 01:07:39,599
episode with you and then you'll come

1797
01:07:44,230 --> 01:07:41,839
back and do like we're going to do these

1798
01:07:45,190 --> 01:07:44,240
sort of reports on what you're

1799
01:07:47,589 --> 01:07:45,200
doing

1800
01:07:49,029 --> 01:07:47,599
uh but i'm slow and was on a break and

1801
01:07:50,870 --> 01:07:49,039
in the meantime you start your own thing

1802
01:07:51,829 --> 01:07:50,880
which i think is awesome because you

1803
01:07:53,109 --> 01:07:51,839
deserve

1804
01:07:57,029 --> 01:07:53,119
your own thing

1805
01:07:58,870 --> 01:07:57,039
and it and it came out so good i was

1806
01:08:01,190 --> 01:07:58,880
very proud of you i thought man she did

1807
01:08:03,270 --> 01:08:01,200
a great job especially because people

1808
01:08:05,349 --> 01:08:03,280
should know this she's doing it all on

1809
01:08:06,630 --> 01:08:05,359
her phone

1810
01:08:09,029 --> 01:08:06,640
so uh

1811
01:08:10,950 --> 01:08:09,039
me mr computer guy

1812
01:08:13,349 --> 01:08:10,960
i'm happy to tell you that i'm going to

1813
01:08:14,789 --> 01:08:13,359
find you a laptop and send it to you

1814
01:08:18,789 --> 01:08:14,799
that's going to be

1815
01:08:20,789 --> 01:08:18,799
editing software and titling software

1816
01:08:23,269 --> 01:08:20,799
and audio software and some things that

1817
01:08:24,709 --> 01:08:23,279
i hope will help you both work on stuff

1818
01:08:25,510 --> 01:08:24,719
for my show

1819
01:08:30,229 --> 01:08:25,520
and

1820
01:08:31,189 --> 01:08:30,239
oh that's so [\h__\h] cool seriously yeah

1821
01:08:34,149 --> 01:08:31,199
yeah

1822
01:08:35,590 --> 01:08:34,159
i got i got so much stuff around here

1823
01:08:37,110 --> 01:08:35,600
i'm gonna find you one and work on it

1824
01:08:39,110 --> 01:08:37,120
when i get a chance

1825
01:08:41,990 --> 01:08:39,120
and uh and send that to you because i

1826
01:08:44,870 --> 01:08:42,000
think it's it's hard i know it's hard

1827
01:08:49,269 --> 01:08:44,880
enough to make videos on a you know like

1828
01:08:50,309 --> 01:08:49,279
a big i got a 50 inch screen that i use

1829
01:08:52,470 --> 01:08:50,319
you know

1830
01:08:54,470 --> 01:08:52,480
so to do that on a little tiny screen i

1831
01:08:57,030 --> 01:08:54,480
can't even imagine doing it on the phone

1832
01:08:59,430 --> 01:08:57,040
dude and i'm half blind too like

1833
01:09:01,189 --> 01:08:59,440
so bad like i have headache after

1834
01:09:05,349 --> 01:09:01,199
editing we're gonna try to get you some

1835
01:09:07,189 --> 01:09:05,359
help and uh but i think that you know

1836
01:09:08,950 --> 01:09:07,199
you want to tell people now how to

1837
01:09:10,950 --> 01:09:08,960
subscribe to your channel because i

1838
01:09:12,550 --> 01:09:10,960
think you might pick up a few new

1839
01:09:15,269 --> 01:09:12,560
friends

1840
01:09:19,510 --> 01:09:15,279
oh that'd be cool yeah um it's cena

1841
01:09:23,669 --> 01:09:21,269
and i guess that's all three words you

1842
01:09:26,149 --> 01:09:23,679
have to search stina beau venus you know

1843
01:09:28,709 --> 01:09:26,159
three separate words like you know the

1844
01:09:29,990 --> 01:09:28,719
song we all knew from

1845
01:09:31,590 --> 01:09:30,000
elementary school

1846
01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:31,600
and any time

1847
01:09:36,390 --> 01:09:33,600
anytime i share this show i will share

1848
01:09:37,990 --> 01:09:36,400
the link to your uh to your youtube

1849
01:09:40,390 --> 01:09:38,000
channel too because people should

1850
01:09:41,829 --> 01:09:40,400
definitely subscribe she's looking into

1851
01:09:44,390 --> 01:09:41,839
all of this

1852
01:09:47,430 --> 01:09:44,400
stuff that is interesting

1853
01:09:50,870 --> 01:09:47,440
to sort of pull the veil back

1854
01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:50,880
from these cosmic con men which i think

1855
01:09:57,750 --> 01:09:53,440
is awesome i want to see a hundred more

1856
01:10:03,510 --> 01:10:00,830
maybe it will have more impact you

1857
01:10:05,669 --> 01:10:03,520
know hey everybody somebody has to take

1858
01:10:07,750 --> 01:10:05,679
the you know the first step and you know

1859
01:10:09,030 --> 01:10:07,760
and trying to get you know the rest of

1860
01:10:10,149 --> 01:10:09,040
us that don't

1861
01:10:12,550 --> 01:10:10,159
have

1862
01:10:14,550 --> 01:10:12,560
you know larger platforms and stuff like

1863
01:10:15,669 --> 01:10:14,560
that or already an established channel

1864
01:10:16,790 --> 01:10:15,679
just

1865
01:10:17,910 --> 01:10:16,800
why not

1866
01:10:20,390 --> 01:10:17,920
you don't even have to do all this

1867
01:10:22,630 --> 01:10:20,400
editing just speak say your personal

1868
01:10:25,189 --> 01:10:22,640
experience or just make a blog post

1869
01:10:27,910 --> 01:10:25,199
about it or the more the better i you

1870
01:10:30,550 --> 01:10:27,920
know today i was doing a video for i

1871
01:10:33,030 --> 01:10:30,560
think i'm gonna do it on the cult aspect

1872
01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:33,040
of this whole thing next actually

1873
01:10:39,350 --> 01:10:35,360
yeah and uh we've been talking about

1874
01:10:42,310 --> 01:10:39,360
this and you found a potential source

1875
01:10:45,510 --> 01:10:42,320
for a lot of these fairy tales that

1876
01:10:46,709 --> 01:10:45,520
predates yeah all the current fairy tale

1877
01:10:50,229 --> 01:10:46,719
tellers

1878
01:10:51,270 --> 01:10:50,239
and uh this is a great story

1879
01:10:52,870 --> 01:10:51,280
do you want to tell us a little bit

1880
01:10:55,590 --> 01:10:52,880
about it or tease it yeah i don't want

1881
01:10:58,149 --> 01:10:55,600
you to spill the whole beans but

1882
01:11:00,709 --> 01:10:58,159
oh no it's fine it's totally fine yeah

1883
01:11:02,310 --> 01:11:00,719
it's um the

1884
01:11:05,350 --> 01:11:02,320
auditorius

1885
01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:08,229
aetherius aetherius uh society it was

1886
01:11:20,990 --> 01:11:17,510
dr george king he was a yogi and

1887
01:11:24,630 --> 01:11:21,000
kundalini master and he was uh yeah in

1888
01:11:27,189 --> 01:11:24,640
1955 or something he said that a voice

1889
01:11:29,830 --> 01:11:27,199
came to him and told him to prepare

1890
01:11:31,310 --> 01:11:29,840
himself because he was going to be the

1891
01:11:34,870 --> 01:11:31,320
voice of

1892
01:11:35,990 --> 01:11:34,880
interplanetary parliament

1893
01:11:38,790 --> 01:11:36,000
and

1894
01:11:42,310 --> 01:11:38,800
the rest is history like he went on what

1895
01:11:44,149 --> 01:11:42,320
was it the bbc back in like 1957

1896
01:11:46,149 --> 01:11:44,159
and was channeled

1897
01:11:48,149 --> 01:11:46,159
by an alien

1898
01:11:49,830 --> 01:11:48,159
on live tv

1899
01:11:52,830 --> 01:11:49,840
in front of everybody he would i guess

1900
01:11:55,830 --> 01:11:52,840
go into what's it called the samadhi or

1901
01:11:57,030 --> 01:11:55,840
something a trance-like state

1902
01:11:59,030 --> 01:11:57,040
and

1903
01:12:02,070 --> 01:11:59,040
become channeled by these

1904
01:12:04,229 --> 01:12:02,080
aliens and there's a lot of

1905
01:12:06,390 --> 01:12:04,239
contents

1906
01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:06,400
within these you know channeling he

1907
01:12:09,350 --> 01:12:08,320
recorded it on the real the reel or

1908
01:12:10,390 --> 01:12:09,360
whatever

1909
01:12:11,990 --> 01:12:10,400
and

1910
01:12:14,790 --> 01:12:12,000
it's it's just

1911
01:12:19,030 --> 01:12:14,800
okay i'll tease one thing that was huge

1912
01:12:20,070 --> 01:12:19,040
that i heard 1974 1974 he is doing a

1913
01:12:23,189 --> 01:12:20,080
lecture

1914
01:12:24,470 --> 01:12:23,199
and he is talking very emotionally about

1915
01:12:25,910 --> 01:12:24,480
how

1916
01:12:28,070 --> 01:12:25,920
back in the day

1917
01:12:31,510 --> 01:12:28,080
i forget how many thousands of years ago

1918
01:12:33,750 --> 01:12:31,520
there was a planet called malbec

1919
01:12:35,830 --> 01:12:33,760
that was destroyed

1920
01:12:37,430 --> 01:12:35,840
by their people and they were really

1921
01:12:40,070 --> 01:12:37,440
aggressive

1922
01:12:42,709 --> 01:12:40,080
and the remnants of that planet turned

1923
01:12:44,070 --> 01:12:42,719
into what is now known as the asteroid

1924
01:12:47,030 --> 01:12:44,080
belt

1925
01:12:49,430 --> 01:12:47,040
they were then evacuated and rebirthed

1926
01:12:53,590 --> 01:12:49,440
on planet earth

1927
01:12:54,790 --> 01:12:53,600
to go through their evolutionary cycle

1928
01:12:56,310 --> 01:12:54,800
now

1929
01:12:58,790 --> 01:12:56,320
season four

1930
01:13:01,189 --> 01:12:58,800
of cosmic disclosure

1931
01:13:02,790 --> 01:13:01,199
i think it's episode one it's titled

1932
01:13:08,470 --> 01:13:02,800
super earth

1933
01:13:10,950 --> 01:13:08,480
maldek that apparently david wilcox

1934
01:13:13,270 --> 01:13:10,960
whistleblower inside or whatever

1935
01:13:15,910 --> 01:13:13,280
told him about this planet

1936
01:13:18,149 --> 01:13:15,920
and corey goode says that the smart

1937
01:13:19,350 --> 01:13:18,159
glass pad also told him about this

1938
01:13:22,390 --> 01:13:19,360
planet and

1939
01:13:24,550 --> 01:13:22,400
what's her name kari the and charlie

1940
01:13:27,110 --> 01:13:24,560
also confirmed with him

1941
01:13:29,189 --> 01:13:27,120
that they were uh yeah they were blown

1942
01:13:31,510 --> 01:13:29,199
up they were an aggressive race and they

1943
01:13:33,030 --> 01:13:31,520
were blown up and turned into the

1944
01:13:35,990 --> 01:13:33,040
asteroid belt

1945
01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:36,000
and they were evacuated here as the

1946
01:13:40,630 --> 01:13:37,760
refugees you've heard them talk about

1947
01:13:42,870 --> 01:13:40,640
the refugees that came to earth oh jesus

1948
01:13:46,229 --> 01:13:42,880
that's them

1949
01:13:48,070 --> 01:13:46,239
yeah so here's the story yeah 1974.

1950
01:13:51,990 --> 01:13:48,080
these guys are telling a story that

1951
01:13:55,270 --> 01:13:52,000
first came out in 1974 essentially

1952
01:13:56,630 --> 01:13:55,280
basically yeah yeah by dr george king

1953
01:13:58,870 --> 01:13:56,640
there's a lecture of it the whole

1954
01:14:01,510 --> 01:13:58,880
lecture is called the cosmic plan it's

1955
01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:01,520
on youtube you can listen to it on there

1956
01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:02,960
yeah so this guy

1957
01:14:05,030 --> 01:14:04,080
uh

1958
01:14:05,830 --> 01:14:05,040
dr

1959
01:14:08,950 --> 01:14:05,840
king

1960
01:14:12,070 --> 01:14:08,960
right is sort of like the cosmic con men

1961
01:14:13,590 --> 01:14:12,080
of the past yeah so it's a great place

1962
01:14:16,070 --> 01:14:13,600
yeah that's a great place to steal

1963
01:14:18,470 --> 01:14:16,080
material from i think

1964
01:14:21,189 --> 01:14:18,480
get this he even does mass meditation

1965
01:14:24,709 --> 01:14:21,199
and mass prayer to quote

1966
01:14:28,790 --> 01:14:24,719
detour earthquakes and hurricanes and

1967
01:14:31,189 --> 01:14:28,800
lower crime rates oh god listen uh i'm a

1968
01:14:32,950 --> 01:14:31,199
big supporter of

1969
01:14:34,550 --> 01:14:32,960
meditation

1970
01:14:36,550 --> 01:14:34,560
big proponent of it actually i think

1971
01:14:37,990 --> 01:14:36,560
it's got a tremendous

1972
01:14:40,630 --> 01:14:38,000
beneficial

1973
01:14:43,189 --> 01:14:40,640
i think meditation can change everyone's

1974
01:14:45,270 --> 01:14:43,199
life i really believe absolutely

1975
01:14:48,310 --> 01:14:45,280
but when people start talking about

1976
01:14:50,149 --> 01:14:48,320
these oh these prayer sessions or these

1977
01:14:53,030 --> 01:14:50,159
mass meditation sessions that lower

1978
01:14:54,830 --> 01:14:53,040
crime rates i lose it because it's all

1979
01:14:57,510 --> 01:14:54,840
been proven

1980
01:14:59,830 --> 01:14:57,520
fake it's all fake the only difference

1981
01:15:02,630 --> 01:14:59,840
with dr king is that they would actually

1982
01:15:04,470 --> 01:15:02,640
store the energies in batteries and they

1983
01:15:06,149 --> 01:15:04,480
would have like a battery with 600

1984
01:15:07,590 --> 01:15:06,159
prayer hours in it

1985
01:15:09,189 --> 01:15:07,600
and then

1986
01:15:10,870 --> 01:15:09,199
when something happens they would like

1987
01:15:12,709 --> 01:15:10,880
direct the battery yeah they point the

1988
01:15:14,790 --> 01:15:12,719
battery at it and you can see pictures

1989
01:15:17,830 --> 01:15:14,800
on youtube of these people like

1990
01:15:20,229 --> 01:15:17,840
like pointing their hands towards this

1991
01:15:23,430 --> 01:15:20,239
box that's elevated and that's the

1992
01:15:25,990 --> 01:15:23,440
prayer battery which is

1993
01:15:27,430 --> 01:15:26,000
amazing to me

1994
01:15:29,189 --> 01:15:27,440
hey whenever you need

1995
01:15:31,669 --> 01:15:29,199
it sounds good though whenever you need

1996
01:15:32,709 --> 01:15:31,679
prayer you just point that battery at

1997
01:15:35,430 --> 01:15:32,719
the

1998
01:15:36,870 --> 01:15:35,440
target i guess right like

1999
01:15:39,350 --> 01:15:36,880
yeah

2000
01:15:42,149 --> 01:15:39,360
so if somebody was sick you could just

2001
01:15:44,149 --> 01:15:42,159
point that battery at them you know

2002
01:15:45,990 --> 01:15:44,159
yeah exactly like you just you know

2003
01:15:47,430 --> 01:15:46,000
don't have to do it later so you could

2004
01:15:49,510 --> 01:15:47,440
just be like man i'm not gonna pray

2005
01:15:51,430 --> 01:15:49,520
today all those fake studies though that

2006
01:15:54,229 --> 01:15:51,440
people cite about lowering crime rates

2007
01:15:57,030 --> 01:15:54,239
it's it's bunk it's it's pseudo science

2008
01:15:59,189 --> 01:15:57,040
it's not real the numbers are are faked

2009
01:16:01,189 --> 01:15:59,199
it doesn't happen

2010
01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:01,199
if you go by real crime statistics

2011
01:16:05,189 --> 01:16:03,280
anyway so this is just some kind of

2012
01:16:07,110 --> 01:16:05,199
stupid claim a lot of these new age

2013
01:16:09,510 --> 01:16:07,120
people make like oh these mass

2014
01:16:11,430 --> 01:16:09,520
meditations it's been proven it lowers

2015
01:16:13,430 --> 01:16:11,440
the crime rate no it doesn't

2016
01:16:14,790 --> 01:16:13,440
doesn't change yeah

2017
01:16:16,310 --> 01:16:14,800
you know i believe it can change

2018
01:16:18,390 --> 01:16:16,320
individuals i don't know that it can

2019
01:16:19,510 --> 01:16:18,400
change a whole town or

2020
01:16:21,910 --> 01:16:19,520
cities

2021
01:16:23,990 --> 01:16:21,920
anything you know but this is something

2022
01:16:26,149 --> 01:16:24,000
no absolutely some of the things these

2023
01:16:28,470 --> 01:16:26,159
guys they like to spout this like oh

2024
01:16:30,790 --> 01:16:28,480
it's been proven no

2025
01:16:33,270 --> 01:16:30,800
never proven i'd love it if that were

2026
01:16:37,270 --> 01:16:33,280
true right we could all just

2027
01:16:39,270 --> 01:16:37,280
kumbaya get together you know

2028
01:16:42,790 --> 01:16:39,280
just having meditation out in our

2029
01:16:45,189 --> 01:16:42,800
backyards all of us at the same time and

2030
01:16:48,229 --> 01:16:45,199
sway in the breeze and think of a better

2031
01:16:50,149 --> 01:16:48,239
world and make it hey that would be

2032
01:16:52,470 --> 01:16:50,159
awesome

2033
01:16:54,550 --> 01:16:52,480
it would be it really would and i agree

2034
01:16:57,350 --> 01:16:54,560
with you like i i meditate as well i

2035
01:16:59,270 --> 01:16:57,360
haven't done it so much lately but yeah

2036
01:17:01,030 --> 01:16:59,280
i used to meditate like all the time i

2037
01:17:03,189 --> 01:17:01,040
swear that's what helped my thyroid

2038
01:17:04,790 --> 01:17:03,199
issue because it was hyperactive and

2039
01:17:05,830 --> 01:17:04,800
just sitting down and chilling for a

2040
01:17:07,590 --> 01:17:05,840
while

2041
01:17:10,390 --> 01:17:07,600
really helped and it helped me because i

2042
01:17:12,870 --> 01:17:10,400
was really skinny like really skinny and

2043
01:17:15,270 --> 01:17:12,880
i swear that's what helped was just you

2044
01:17:17,510 --> 01:17:15,280
know slowing myself down

2045
01:17:20,229 --> 01:17:17,520
but uh yeah

2046
01:17:23,270 --> 01:17:20,239
slacking i've been slacking myself i

2047
01:17:25,110 --> 01:17:23,280
know like you know secret time i have

2048
01:17:26,229 --> 01:17:25,120
anger issues

2049
01:17:29,910 --> 01:17:26,239
so for me

2050
01:17:32,390 --> 01:17:29,920
yeah yeah imagine that i do so human and

2051
01:17:35,110 --> 01:17:32,400
you have english issues yes and and uh

2052
01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:35,120
and a big failing of mine is that i do

2053
01:17:39,750 --> 01:17:37,120
not like those anger issues to be

2054
01:17:41,830 --> 01:17:39,760
spilled out onto any member of my family

2055
01:17:44,870 --> 01:17:41,840
for whatever reason and i've been known

2056
01:17:45,910 --> 01:17:44,880
to fly off the handle meditation

2057
01:17:48,149 --> 01:17:45,920
gives you

2058
01:17:51,030 --> 01:17:48,159
a greater awareness of

2059
01:17:53,350 --> 01:17:51,040
every emotion in you and so for me the

2060
01:17:55,110 --> 01:17:53,360
most helpful thing of meditation and why

2061
01:17:56,229 --> 01:17:55,120
i need to keep up with it more is that

2062
01:17:58,630 --> 01:17:56,239
it

2063
01:18:00,950 --> 01:17:58,640
instead of going from zero to a hundred

2064
01:18:02,709 --> 01:18:00,960
to zero you know like from out of

2065
01:18:05,189 --> 01:18:02,719
nowhere i could just start yelling about

2066
01:18:07,030 --> 01:18:05,199
something you know get that pissed yeah

2067
01:18:09,189 --> 01:18:07,040
and meditation for me has been

2068
01:18:10,870 --> 01:18:09,199
it slows everything down and now i go

2069
01:18:13,189 --> 01:18:10,880
i'm starting to get anxious i'm starting

2070
01:18:16,070 --> 01:18:13,199
to get angry i want to yell i'm gonna

2071
01:18:18,390 --> 01:18:16,080
yell i think i'm gonna eat oh no calm

2072
01:18:21,110 --> 01:18:18,400
down don't yell you know it gives you

2073
01:18:23,910 --> 01:18:21,120
that more yeah more broad a field

2074
01:18:24,870 --> 01:18:23,920
instead of just boom here i am you know

2075
01:18:27,270 --> 01:18:24,880
so

2076
01:18:29,669 --> 01:18:27,280
i think it's tremendously helpful and at

2077
01:18:32,870 --> 01:18:29,679
least in that sense it has been for me

2078
01:18:34,950 --> 01:18:32,880
and there's health benefits and you know

2079
01:18:37,189 --> 01:18:34,960
i think that's why a lot of people

2080
01:18:40,390 --> 01:18:37,199
believe this stuff still is because some

2081
01:18:43,189 --> 01:18:40,400
of the stuff that these guys talk about

2082
01:18:45,430 --> 01:18:43,199
yes they do help yes they can improve

2083
01:18:46,470 --> 01:18:45,440
your life you know the meditation of

2084
01:18:47,910 --> 01:18:46,480
course

2085
01:18:50,229 --> 01:18:47,920
isn't going to it's not a lot of

2086
01:18:51,270 --> 01:18:50,239
scientology is like that believe it or

2087
01:18:53,510 --> 01:18:51,280
not

2088
01:18:55,669 --> 01:18:53,520
until you get to the real crazy stuff

2089
01:18:56,790 --> 01:18:55,679
that is like ridiculous and makes no

2090
01:18:57,910 --> 01:18:56,800
sense

2091
01:18:59,510 --> 01:18:57,920
when you first

2092
01:19:01,590 --> 01:18:59,520
this is what i've been told by several

2093
01:19:03,430 --> 01:19:01,600
people when you first get into that it's

2094
01:19:05,590 --> 01:19:03,440
like it is helpful because it's kind of

2095
01:19:07,510 --> 01:19:05,600
a form of therapy you go talk about your

2096
01:19:09,510 --> 01:19:07,520
problems and you know you get these

2097
01:19:12,229 --> 01:19:09,520
audits and then they kind of

2098
01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:12,239
try to clear you of past traumatic

2099
01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:14,560
things you start feeling good yeah so

2100
01:19:18,950 --> 01:19:16,400
some of the stuff works you know but

2101
01:19:21,669 --> 01:19:18,960
then you get into the crazy woo-woo

2102
01:19:22,470 --> 01:19:21,679
galactic overlord stuff and it's just

2103
01:19:25,030 --> 01:19:22,480
you know

2104
01:19:27,110 --> 01:19:25,040
it's nuts yeah he incorporated a lot of

2105
01:19:30,229 --> 01:19:27,120
uh freudian

2106
01:19:31,030 --> 01:19:30,239
psychology in his stuff all ron hubbard

2107
01:19:33,110 --> 01:19:31,040
so

2108
01:19:36,709 --> 01:19:33,120
you know only he called it

2109
01:19:38,950 --> 01:19:36,719
analytical or something like that

2110
01:19:40,550 --> 01:19:38,960
yeah he had a he had an interesting take

2111
01:19:42,550 --> 01:19:40,560
and a lot of people don't know but he

2112
01:19:46,709 --> 01:19:42,560
wrote more

2113
01:19:48,870 --> 01:19:46,719
pages of fiction than any man ever

2114
01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:48,880
he holds the world record or something

2115
01:19:52,470 --> 01:19:51,520
yeah yeah he used to just crank out

2116
01:19:53,430 --> 01:19:52,480
these

2117
01:19:55,750 --> 01:19:53,440
you know

2118
01:19:57,350 --> 01:19:55,760
these novels these science fiction

2119
01:20:00,470 --> 01:19:57,360
novels he used to just crank them out

2120
01:20:01,750 --> 01:20:00,480
like one a week or so something crazy to

2121
01:20:03,430 --> 01:20:01,760
these

2122
01:20:05,750 --> 01:20:03,440
publishing houses that would just you

2123
01:20:07,510 --> 01:20:05,760
know mass produce and put them all over

2124
01:20:10,470 --> 01:20:07,520
you know

2125
01:20:12,790 --> 01:20:10,480
and dang that that's crazy and look at

2126
01:20:15,750 --> 01:20:12,800
it now they're rich yeah

2127
01:20:21,270 --> 01:20:18,390
they make some money yeah they make some

2128
01:20:23,350 --> 01:20:21,280
money yeah yeah there's

2129
01:20:25,030 --> 01:20:23,360
definitely a money machine there i think

2130
01:20:26,950 --> 01:20:25,040
the tide is turning on them we have this

2131
01:20:28,229 --> 01:20:26,960
going clear and all these people coming

2132
01:20:29,669 --> 01:20:28,239
out against them and the stuff that

2133
01:20:32,149 --> 01:20:29,679
happens

2134
01:20:34,629 --> 01:20:32,159
so maybe their influence is going to be

2135
01:20:35,910 --> 01:20:34,639
diminished too but i thought that about

2136
01:20:37,750 --> 01:20:35,920
the catholic church with all the

2137
01:20:39,510 --> 01:20:37,760
pedophile scandal and it doesn't seem

2138
01:20:41,590 --> 01:20:39,520
like they have any less money but they

2139
01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:41,600
have closed a lot of churches and

2140
01:20:46,870 --> 01:20:44,000
schools i know that

2141
01:20:48,870 --> 01:20:46,880
yes yes and and it's got it's got a bad

2142
01:20:50,790 --> 01:20:48,880
reputation i mean you hear the word

2143
01:20:53,189 --> 01:20:50,800
catholic the words catholic church and

2144
01:20:54,709 --> 01:20:53,199
you immediately think of

2145
01:20:55,910 --> 01:20:54,719
you know

2146
01:20:57,750 --> 01:20:55,920
that stuff

2147
01:21:00,310 --> 01:20:57,760
you don't think of

2148
01:21:01,590 --> 01:21:00,320
church you think of the dark side of it

2149
01:21:03,990 --> 01:21:01,600
unfortunately that's the word

2150
01:21:06,870 --> 01:21:04,000
association with it because of its

2151
01:21:08,950 --> 01:21:06,880
history yeah now as soon as you hear

2152
01:21:11,830 --> 01:21:08,960
yeah that's exactly right i mean that's

2153
01:21:13,030 --> 01:21:11,840
what comes to mind now for them you know

2154
01:21:15,030 --> 01:21:13,040
and uh

2155
01:21:16,390 --> 01:21:15,040
i was born i was born and raised

2156
01:21:19,030 --> 01:21:16,400
catholic so

2157
01:21:21,430 --> 01:21:19,040
you know i just kind of left in my early

2158
01:21:22,229 --> 01:21:21,440
20s like this is not for me

2159
01:21:24,229 --> 01:21:22,239
but

2160
01:21:27,270 --> 01:21:24,239
you know more power to people that it is

2161
01:21:29,030 --> 01:21:27,280
for you know but i i often wondered that

2162
01:21:31,350 --> 01:21:29,040
like if even if i was really into that

2163
01:21:32,790 --> 01:21:31,360
religion right and i was really catholic

2164
01:21:33,990 --> 01:21:32,800
you know truly believed it and then i

2165
01:21:36,070 --> 01:21:34,000
heard all that

2166
01:21:38,070 --> 01:21:36,080
all the stuff they did covering up all

2167
01:21:40,229 --> 01:21:38,080
these child molesting priests

2168
01:21:43,430 --> 01:21:40,239
that would make me just leave like i

2169
01:21:44,790 --> 01:21:43,440
would just quit yeah i wouldn't stay but

2170
01:21:46,470 --> 01:21:44,800
you don't want to be associated with

2171
01:21:48,470 --> 01:21:46,480
that stuff you know even though it

2172
01:21:50,390 --> 01:21:48,480
wasn't you or your church or anything

2173
01:21:53,990 --> 01:21:50,400
like that oh there was a couple in my

2174
01:21:55,350 --> 01:21:54,000
church growing up ah no yes there was

2175
01:21:56,470 --> 01:21:55,360
and they were on the list that

2176
01:22:00,629 --> 01:21:56,480
philadelphia

2177
01:22:02,950 --> 01:22:00,639
archdiocese eventually published of uh

2178
01:22:04,629 --> 01:22:02,960
priests accused of

2179
01:22:07,510 --> 01:22:04,639
you know any kind of sexual misconduct

2180
01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:07,520
with the minor they published a list in

2181
01:22:14,629 --> 01:22:10,400
the newspaper and a few of them were

2182
01:22:16,950 --> 01:22:14,639
from my church where i was growing wow

2183
01:22:19,350 --> 01:22:16,960
are they still oh no they you know what

2184
01:22:21,669 --> 01:22:19,360
they i don't know what happened the one

2185
01:22:23,910 --> 01:22:21,679
actually got criminally charged and they

2186
01:22:25,990 --> 01:22:23,920
tried him twice and both times there was

2187
01:22:26,709 --> 01:22:26,000
a hung jury so i think he got away with

2188
01:22:29,030 --> 01:22:26,719
it

2189
01:22:32,310 --> 01:22:29,040
and then the other one i don't believe

2190
01:22:35,669 --> 01:22:32,320
was ever criminally prosecuted

2191
01:22:38,629 --> 01:22:35,679
but interestingly when my father died

2192
01:22:40,310 --> 01:22:38,639
he was very catholic and uh you know i

2193
01:22:41,430 --> 01:22:40,320
had to go to the funeral home and make

2194
01:22:42,790 --> 01:22:41,440
all the arrangements because my mother

2195
01:22:45,110 --> 01:22:42,800
was kind of a wreck

2196
01:22:46,870 --> 01:22:45,120
and uh and i did i did that and then i

2197
01:22:49,030 --> 01:22:46,880
don't know like the day or two before

2198
01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:49,040
the funeral like the guy the funeral

2199
01:22:53,030 --> 01:22:50,880
home guy called me up and he said

2200
01:22:55,189 --> 01:22:53,040
there's something wrong uh you you gotta

2201
01:22:57,030 --> 01:22:55,199
go you gotta go talk to the monsignor at

2202
01:22:59,430 --> 01:22:57,040
the church because they they won't do

2203
01:23:01,590 --> 01:22:59,440
the mass and my father had been like the

2204
01:23:03,270 --> 01:23:01,600
cub scout master at that church long

2205
01:23:04,629 --> 01:23:03,280
after we were grown up

2206
01:23:06,950 --> 01:23:04,639
he was a really good guy in the

2207
01:23:08,790 --> 01:23:06,960
community everybody knew him he did lots

2208
01:23:10,709 --> 01:23:08,800
to help that church so i was kind of

2209
01:23:12,550 --> 01:23:10,719
pissed right away like what they won't

2210
01:23:15,510 --> 01:23:12,560
bury him what so i had to go over there

2211
01:23:17,430 --> 01:23:15,520
and talk to the monsignor and i did

2212
01:23:19,350 --> 01:23:17,440
and uh he said well he's not a catholic

2213
01:23:21,110 --> 01:23:19,360
in good standing you know how did you

2214
01:23:22,310 --> 01:23:21,120
what he's been catholic his whole life

2215
01:23:24,629 --> 01:23:22,320
what does that mean

2216
01:23:27,030 --> 01:23:24,639
because he didn't go no you gotta listen

2217
01:23:28,470 --> 01:23:27,040
so they said and i'm like well how how

2218
01:23:30,950 --> 01:23:28,480
did you make that determination well he

2219
01:23:32,470 --> 01:23:30,960
hasn't been to church in six months

2220
01:23:35,270 --> 01:23:32,480
and first i said

2221
01:23:37,430 --> 01:23:35,280
and at first i said yeah uh do you know

2222
01:23:40,149 --> 01:23:37,440
where he's been for the past six months

2223
01:23:41,350 --> 01:23:40,159
he's been in hospice for six months

2224
01:23:43,189 --> 01:23:41,360
dying

2225
01:23:46,229 --> 01:23:43,199
so sorry so sorry he didn't get to

2226
01:23:47,990 --> 01:23:46,239
sunday mass but he watched he requested

2227
01:23:50,870 --> 01:23:48,000
a television just so he could watch the

2228
01:23:53,350 --> 01:23:50,880
mass every sunday that's how catholic my

2229
01:23:55,110 --> 01:23:53,360
father was like he couldn't be there so

2230
01:23:57,430 --> 01:23:55,120
i gotta have a television

2231
01:23:59,990 --> 01:23:57,440
and i talk to the priest and that counts

2232
01:24:01,590 --> 01:24:00,000
like he was concerned with missing mass

2233
01:24:03,669 --> 01:24:01,600
right so

2234
01:24:06,149 --> 01:24:03,679
and you're like well

2235
01:24:07,990 --> 01:24:06,159
what do we have to do here well

2236
01:24:09,669 --> 01:24:08,000
he hasn't paid the church envelopes for

2237
01:24:13,110 --> 01:24:09,679
the past six months

2238
01:24:15,030 --> 01:24:13,120
so no they didn't no i swear so i i just

2239
01:24:16,790 --> 01:24:15,040
had to pay the church envelopes twenty

2240
01:24:19,430 --> 01:24:16,800
dollars a week times six months whatever

2241
01:24:21,669 --> 01:24:19,440
that was i went to the mac machine uh

2242
01:24:23,990 --> 01:24:21,679
i'm sorry the atm everybody in philly

2243
01:24:25,669 --> 01:24:24,000
says mac got the money man i need i need

2244
01:24:27,430 --> 01:24:25,679
a cigarette after that let me tell you

2245
01:24:29,669 --> 01:24:27,440
that's making me mad

2246
01:24:32,149 --> 01:24:29,679
so i go back to the rectory and remember

2247
01:24:34,950 --> 01:24:32,159
it's the monsignor that i'm talking to

2248
01:24:36,629 --> 01:24:34,960
i threw the money at him like literally

2249
01:24:39,110 --> 01:24:36,639
threw it up in the air

2250
01:24:40,310 --> 01:24:39,120
at his face like threw it at him and i

2251
01:24:42,229 --> 01:24:40,320
said

2252
01:24:43,590 --> 01:24:42,239
you call that funeral director back and

2253
01:24:46,390 --> 01:24:43,600
you let him know

2254
01:24:47,910 --> 01:24:46,400
that mass is back on my father did so

2255
01:24:50,790 --> 01:24:47,920
much good for this church you're going

2256
01:24:53,350 --> 01:24:50,800
to bury him like he would like he wants

2257
01:24:55,590 --> 01:24:53,360
in the church that he was a member of

2258
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:55,600
and i left like he deserves yeah and i

2259
01:24:59,910 --> 01:24:58,320
laughed and it was funny like they they

2260
01:25:00,870 --> 01:24:59,920
buried him there wasn't any issue with

2261
01:25:02,470 --> 01:25:00,880
that

2262
01:25:03,270 --> 01:25:02,480
so it was all just about the money with

2263
01:25:05,669 --> 01:25:03,280
them

2264
01:25:07,910 --> 01:25:05,679
and that really pissed me off because my

2265
01:25:09,590 --> 01:25:07,920
father was dying for six months so sorry

2266
01:25:11,910 --> 01:25:09,600
he couldn't be here to hand his envelope

2267
01:25:13,750 --> 01:25:11,920
in but it's funny just hand that hand in

2268
01:25:14,870 --> 01:25:13,760
those envelopes and suddenly he's a good

2269
01:25:16,790 --> 01:25:14,880
catholic

2270
01:25:18,629 --> 01:25:16,800
now the the monsignor who determined

2271
01:25:22,470 --> 01:25:18,639
that my dead father was not a good

2272
01:25:23,350 --> 01:25:22,480
catholic was on that list of pedophiles

2273
01:25:25,189 --> 01:25:23,360
oh

2274
01:25:27,030 --> 01:25:25,199
and you were there and you talked to

2275
01:25:29,510 --> 01:25:27,040
that man did you know

2276
01:25:31,590 --> 01:25:29,520
no no i didn't the list came out after

2277
01:25:32,950 --> 01:25:31,600
my father's funeral

2278
01:25:34,790 --> 01:25:32,960
oh my god

2279
01:25:38,070 --> 01:25:34,800
shortly after that that priest was

2280
01:25:41,350 --> 01:25:38,080
mysteriously moved to a retirement home

2281
01:25:43,189 --> 01:25:41,360
for retired catholic priests

2282
01:25:45,030 --> 01:25:43,199
see that's what they do i've seen a lot

2283
01:25:47,030 --> 01:25:45,040
of documentaries on that stuff and they

2284
01:25:49,750 --> 01:25:47,040
just bounce them around and different

2285
01:25:52,229 --> 01:25:49,760
different stuff comes out

2286
01:25:54,950 --> 01:25:52,239
dang dude

2287
01:25:57,189 --> 01:25:54,960
dude that's messed up yeah i don't know

2288
01:25:59,030 --> 01:25:57,199
i guess i was i guess i was lucky

2289
01:26:00,629 --> 01:25:59,040
because i i was an altar boy growing up

2290
01:26:03,030 --> 01:26:00,639
and there was rumors about a couple of

2291
01:26:04,950 --> 01:26:03,040
priests like and i remember one when i

2292
01:26:06,629 --> 01:26:04,960
was very i think i was like in second

2293
01:26:09,030 --> 01:26:06,639
grade or something my father's like you

2294
01:26:10,390 --> 01:26:09,040
stay away from father so and so don't be

2295
01:26:11,910 --> 01:26:10,400
alone with them

2296
01:26:14,149 --> 01:26:11,920
and uh

2297
01:26:15,669 --> 01:26:14,159
you know don't be too friendly with him

2298
01:26:18,149 --> 01:26:15,679
and i didn't understand why or whatever

2299
01:26:22,310 --> 01:26:18,159
but now i do you know

2300
01:26:23,910 --> 01:26:22,320
right right yeah oh my god now yeah and

2301
01:26:26,149 --> 01:26:23,920
my dad kind of threatened him i heard

2302
01:26:28,709 --> 01:26:26,159
from my brother later like my son's an

2303
01:26:30,149 --> 01:26:28,719
altar boy this is my son

2304
01:26:31,750 --> 01:26:30,159
and then he went back later and said

2305
01:26:32,950 --> 01:26:31,760
remember i introduced you to my son

2306
01:26:34,709 --> 01:26:32,960
don't get too friendly with him or

2307
01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:34,719
something like that like so it's funny

2308
01:26:39,030 --> 01:26:36,480
like even back then and that like you

2309
01:26:40,870 --> 01:26:39,040
know people knew about this stuff or

2310
01:26:42,950 --> 01:26:40,880
there was and that's the power of

2311
01:26:45,110 --> 01:26:42,960
conviction with people's religion that

2312
01:26:47,750 --> 01:26:45,120
you know friends generations especially

2313
01:26:49,430 --> 01:26:47,760
with catholicism because they got you

2314
01:26:50,629 --> 01:26:49,440
wrapped up like you gotta go to

2315
01:26:52,550 --> 01:26:50,639
confession

2316
01:26:55,030 --> 01:26:52,560
or you'll go to hell you gotta go to

2317
01:26:57,669 --> 01:26:55,040
church every sunday or you'll go to hell

2318
01:27:00,470 --> 01:26:57,679
you know like you're really

2319
01:27:03,590 --> 01:27:00,480
you gotta salvation is through them so

2320
01:27:05,510 --> 01:27:03,600
you gotta do what okay so this guy's got

2321
01:27:07,510 --> 01:27:05,520
a problem with children i get you know

2322
01:27:09,110 --> 01:27:07,520
this guy's now that's 22 growing up

2323
01:27:11,910 --> 01:27:09,120
there's so many priests that are like

2324
01:27:13,669 --> 01:27:11,920
alcoholics i can't tell you how many

2325
01:27:15,270 --> 01:27:13,679
priests i grew up catholic i was

2326
01:27:16,870 --> 01:27:15,280
educated catholic

2327
01:27:19,910 --> 01:27:16,880
all my years in school were catholic

2328
01:27:21,430 --> 01:27:19,920
schools there was just alcoholic priests

2329
01:27:23,669 --> 01:27:21,440
like they were just falling down drunk

2330
01:27:25,750 --> 01:27:23,679
by five o'clock you know or something

2331
01:27:26,950 --> 01:27:25,760
it's funny but you just kind of like

2332
01:27:28,870 --> 01:27:26,960
yeah yeah

2333
01:27:31,430 --> 01:27:28,880
it's a culture thing too though like

2334
01:27:33,750 --> 01:27:31,440
especially especially catholicism it's

2335
01:27:35,510 --> 01:27:33,760
like a lot of you know families it's

2336
01:27:37,110 --> 01:27:35,520
like your grandmother went your parents

2337
01:27:38,550 --> 01:27:37,120
went your great grandparents went if you

2338
01:27:40,629 --> 01:27:38,560
don't go you feel like you're letting

2339
01:27:42,310 --> 01:27:40,639
down the family yeah you know you don't

2340
01:27:43,830 --> 01:27:42,320
want to let down your grandma you know i

2341
01:27:45,669 --> 01:27:43,840
kind of worry though i gotta do

2342
01:27:47,030 --> 01:27:45,679
something for my children because i

2343
01:27:49,110 --> 01:27:47,040
don't really want to grow up with no

2344
01:27:51,430 --> 01:27:49,120
religion but then i'm kind of like maybe

2345
01:27:53,350 --> 01:27:51,440
i'll wait until a few more years older

2346
01:27:55,350 --> 01:27:53,360
and then we'll i'll let him pick or i

2347
01:27:57,189 --> 01:27:55,360
don't know but you know yeah but you're

2348
01:27:58,709 --> 01:27:57,199
right it's a lot of culture so we're not

2349
01:28:00,870 --> 01:27:58,719
going to have this first holy communion

2350
01:28:02,310 --> 01:28:00,880
stuff in my family the parties and you

2351
01:28:03,270 --> 01:28:02,320
know because

2352
01:28:05,709 --> 01:28:03,280
i don't know

2353
01:28:07,830 --> 01:28:05,719
both my children were baptized by a

2354
01:28:08,950 --> 01:28:07,840
non-denominational minister that was

2355
01:28:11,350 --> 01:28:08,960
like

2356
01:28:13,830 --> 01:28:11,360
uh okay with everything you know what i

2357
01:28:15,430 --> 01:28:13,840
mean like christian buddhism everything

2358
01:28:17,590 --> 01:28:15,440
and she talked about all different

2359
01:28:19,510 --> 01:28:17,600
religions during their during their

2360
01:28:21,510 --> 01:28:19,520
baptism and you know but you're right

2361
01:28:23,750 --> 01:28:21,520
it's a huge culture thing you know the

2362
01:28:25,910 --> 01:28:23,760
confirmation parties and the graduation

2363
01:28:28,310 --> 01:28:25,920
parties and

2364
01:28:31,110 --> 01:28:28,320
with my my kids you know i'm the same

2365
01:28:32,790 --> 01:28:31,120
way like i i used to have that guilt

2366
01:28:35,430 --> 01:28:32,800
like my family members would guilt me

2367
01:28:37,510 --> 01:28:35,440
like oh christina you know why don't you

2368
01:28:38,950 --> 01:28:37,520
let me take olivia to church you know

2369
01:28:40,629 --> 01:28:38,960
they'd never actually do it but they

2370
01:28:44,790 --> 01:28:40,639
would say that to like you know make me

2371
01:28:47,350 --> 01:28:44,800
feel bad and uh yeah like olivia is 10

2372
01:28:49,830 --> 01:28:47,360
years old and when i because

2373
01:28:51,750 --> 01:28:49,840
i think i told you uh

2374
01:28:54,950 --> 01:28:51,760
you know i this stuff is new for me i

2375
01:28:57,189 --> 01:28:54,960
was an atheist for a very long time i

2376
01:28:58,950 --> 01:28:57,199
grew up pentecostal holy rolling slain

2377
01:29:00,950 --> 01:28:58,960
in the spirit talking in tongues

2378
01:29:02,629 --> 01:29:00,960
southern church like that's an

2379
01:29:04,390 --> 01:29:02,639
interesting church i've been to one of

2380
01:29:06,149 --> 01:29:04,400
them where people were like

2381
01:29:08,229 --> 01:29:06,159
where people were like drunk on the holy

2382
01:29:10,550 --> 01:29:08,239
spirit and all this crazy stuff and i

2383
01:29:12,149 --> 01:29:10,560
was talking in tongues and i was like

2384
01:29:13,270 --> 01:29:12,159
i don't know i remember just thinking

2385
01:29:18,229 --> 01:29:13,280
this is

2386
01:29:19,510 --> 01:29:18,239
respectful because some

2387
01:29:21,430 --> 01:29:19,520
actually i think it was a girl that i

2388
01:29:22,950 --> 01:29:21,440
was trying to get with

2389
01:29:24,149 --> 01:29:22,960
brought me there

2390
01:29:25,750 --> 01:29:24,159
and then i was like that was enough for

2391
01:29:26,950 --> 01:29:25,760
me i'm like this girl's hot she's not

2392
01:29:28,950 --> 01:29:26,960
hot enough to put up with this kind of

2393
01:29:30,070 --> 01:29:28,960
crazy i was gonna say it ain't worth it

2394
01:29:32,470 --> 01:29:30,080
yeah

2395
01:29:34,470 --> 01:29:32,480
no we had this one that would like

2396
01:29:36,629 --> 01:29:34,480
literally run around the church like

2397
01:29:39,110 --> 01:29:36,639
during prayer during worship we always

2398
01:29:40,070 --> 01:29:39,120
had worship and they would be like i

2399
01:29:41,430 --> 01:29:40,080
mean

2400
01:29:43,189 --> 01:29:41,440
it wasn't just

2401
01:29:47,669 --> 01:29:43,199
talking

2402
01:29:49,110 --> 01:29:47,679
five years old the first time she got uh

2403
01:29:51,350 --> 01:29:49,120
slain in the spirit and talking in

2404
01:29:53,189 --> 01:29:51,360
tongues and oh my god i'm starting to

2405
01:29:55,430 --> 01:29:53,199
talk like a damn redneck just talking

2406
01:29:57,430 --> 01:29:55,440
about this stuff like it's so like

2407
01:29:59,510 --> 01:29:57,440
ingrid it was such a you know what's

2408
01:30:02,070 --> 01:29:59,520
interesting there's a uh

2409
01:30:05,430 --> 01:30:02,080
you know there's a snake

2410
01:30:06,550 --> 01:30:05,440
handling church not far from my cabin

2411
01:30:08,790 --> 01:30:06,560
and uh

2412
01:30:11,189 --> 01:30:08,800
i don't know why but i'm going to go

2413
01:30:14,709 --> 01:30:12,629
you can look it up on youtube like

2414
01:30:16,390 --> 01:30:14,719
there's these churches where the the

2415
01:30:19,110 --> 01:30:16,400
minister will handle

2416
01:30:21,350 --> 01:30:19,120
very poisonous snakes and they take that

2417
01:30:23,270 --> 01:30:21,360
as sort of proof of like you know divine

2418
01:30:25,830 --> 01:30:23,280
intervention why they don't get

2419
01:30:27,110 --> 01:30:25,840
why they don't get bitter get you know

2420
01:30:29,350 --> 01:30:27,120
or die

2421
01:30:31,990 --> 01:30:29,360
and uh it's just a cra it's just one of

2422
01:30:33,350 --> 01:30:32,000
those crazy little christian sec things

2423
01:30:35,110 --> 01:30:33,360
that you don't hear much about but i

2424
01:30:36,310 --> 01:30:35,120
want to go see it and experience it

2425
01:30:38,070 --> 01:30:36,320
because that's a part of american

2426
01:30:40,390 --> 01:30:38,080
history man these snake handlers and

2427
01:30:43,270 --> 01:30:40,400
they're always in rural areas like in

2428
01:30:44,390 --> 01:30:43,280
the south and in the mountains you know

2429
01:30:46,310 --> 01:30:44,400
you're not going to find a snake

2430
01:30:47,430 --> 01:30:46,320
handling church in the middle of a city

2431
01:30:49,430 --> 01:30:47,440
you know

2432
01:30:51,990 --> 01:30:49,440
but it's another interesting weird sort

2433
01:30:53,270 --> 01:30:52,000
of spiritual thing to go check out you

2434
01:30:59,750 --> 01:30:53,280
know

2435
01:31:04,550 --> 01:31:00,790
get it

2436
01:31:06,790 --> 01:31:04,560
yeah i think i did yeah

2437
01:31:08,870 --> 01:31:06,800
you know i always i always said that it

2438
01:31:11,510 --> 01:31:08,880
was no divine intervention i always said

2439
01:31:13,990 --> 01:31:11,520
there it was like a minor miracle that i

2440
01:31:16,550 --> 01:31:14,000
spent like 20 years in rock bands and i

2441
01:31:19,669 --> 01:31:16,560
never got any kind of std it was a

2442
01:31:20,950 --> 01:31:19,679
miracle yeah it's a miracle

2443
01:31:23,350 --> 01:31:20,960
yeah i used to go to a lot of other

2444
01:31:25,830 --> 01:31:23,360
shows a lot of guys in my band that did

2445
01:31:27,669 --> 01:31:25,840
i had a lot of friends in bands that did

2446
01:31:28,870 --> 01:31:27,679
i nev never

2447
01:31:31,030 --> 01:31:28,880
yes i was just

2448
01:31:34,790 --> 01:31:31,040
careful enough always keep it covered

2449
01:31:43,430 --> 01:31:35,910
yeah

2450
01:31:45,990 --> 01:31:43,440
was really like

2451
01:31:47,830 --> 01:31:46,000
southerny southerny like

2452
01:31:49,510 --> 01:31:47,840
i remember like

2453
01:31:51,350 --> 01:31:49,520
oh my god like

2454
01:31:52,709 --> 01:31:51,360
okay it was really southern to where

2455
01:31:56,550 --> 01:31:52,719
like

2456
01:31:58,149 --> 01:31:56,560
i don't know how else to put it but we

2457
01:32:01,030 --> 01:31:58,159
were the darkest people in the whole

2458
01:32:03,189 --> 01:32:01,040
church like my dad's you know mexican so

2459
01:32:05,030 --> 01:32:03,199
like we never felt like

2460
01:32:06,470 --> 01:32:05,040
part of the church all the kids went to

2461
01:32:08,629 --> 01:32:06,480
private christian schools that the

2462
01:32:10,070 --> 01:32:08,639
church paid for you know we went to

2463
01:32:11,110 --> 01:32:10,080
public school

2464
01:32:12,950 --> 01:32:11,120
um

2465
01:32:13,990 --> 01:32:12,960
it was just like you heathens i don't

2466
01:32:19,189 --> 01:32:14,000
know

2467
01:32:20,790 --> 01:32:19,199
mean to me too like i remember like you

2468
01:32:23,830 --> 01:32:20,800
know seventh grade you're going through

2469
01:32:25,990 --> 01:32:23,840
that phase 13 and all that i dyed my

2470
01:32:28,229 --> 01:32:26,000
hair like burgundy and they called me

2471
01:32:31,510 --> 01:32:28,239
the devil's daughter and stuff like that

2472
01:32:33,910 --> 01:32:31,520
like they were just cruel to me like

2473
01:32:36,229 --> 01:32:33,920
oh i hated it i hated it and after that

2474
01:32:37,590 --> 01:32:36,239
i just was like nope bad experience i

2475
01:32:40,310 --> 01:32:37,600
don't believe in god

2476
01:32:42,950 --> 01:32:40,320
and you know what i often thought i try

2477
01:32:45,910 --> 01:32:42,960
to get my brain around atheism but i'm

2478
01:32:47,510 --> 01:32:45,920
just like i guess i'm so brainwashed

2479
01:32:49,030 --> 01:32:47,520
part of me and the other part of me is i

2480
01:32:51,510 --> 01:32:49,040
don't want to believe that there is

2481
01:32:54,550 --> 01:32:51,520
nothing so i'm kind of like i definitely

2482
01:32:55,990 --> 01:32:54,560
believe in some form of god i can't not

2483
01:32:57,510 --> 01:32:56,000
every time i try not to

2484
01:33:00,149 --> 01:32:57,520
lose them it doesn't work it doesn't

2485
01:33:03,510 --> 01:33:00,159
work for me to not and here's a here's a

2486
01:33:06,390 --> 01:33:03,520
very easy reason for that the dials of

2487
01:33:08,390 --> 01:33:06,400
the universe are set to perfectly to be

2488
01:33:09,830 --> 01:33:08,400
an accident just my opinion

2489
01:33:12,149 --> 01:33:09,840
i think there's some kind of design

2490
01:33:14,310 --> 01:33:12,159
going on there but yeah

2491
01:33:16,390 --> 01:33:14,320
i can't get the atheism i can't get to

2492
01:33:18,390 --> 01:33:16,400
it i just can't get to it that's

2493
01:33:23,110 --> 01:33:18,400
that's actually what made me change my

2494
01:33:25,110 --> 01:33:23,120
mind is sacred geometry and it was

2495
01:33:28,149 --> 01:33:25,120
david wucock's lecture

2496
01:33:29,750 --> 01:33:28,159
on sacred geometry i remember

2497
01:33:32,149 --> 01:33:29,760
it like yesterday

2498
01:33:34,229 --> 01:33:32,159
yes that guy i mean i gotta say that was

2499
01:33:36,310 --> 01:33:34,239
a really good lecture he did about the

2500
01:33:37,750 --> 01:33:36,320
cycles and all this stuff and i remember

2501
01:33:39,510 --> 01:33:37,760
like you know pat with me these two and

2502
01:33:41,669 --> 01:33:39,520
i was like dude you got you gotta look

2503
01:33:43,669 --> 01:33:41,679
at this stuff and it was just ever since

2504
01:33:45,189 --> 01:33:43,679
we've been like just devouring this

2505
01:33:47,430 --> 01:33:45,199
stuff and

2506
01:33:49,110 --> 01:33:47,440
um i remember i brought it up to olivia

2507
01:33:51,189 --> 01:33:49,120
one day she's ten

2508
01:33:53,510 --> 01:33:51,199
and she flat out told me and she's like

2509
01:33:54,870 --> 01:33:53,520
i'm sorry mom i i don't believe in god i

2510
01:33:56,870 --> 01:33:54,880
don't believe in any of this stuff i

2511
01:33:58,629 --> 01:33:56,880
don't believe in aliens i don't you know

2512
01:34:00,709 --> 01:33:58,639
i think we're here and it's just us and

2513
01:34:01,910 --> 01:34:00,719
that's it just live your life

2514
01:34:03,030 --> 01:34:01,920
like

2515
01:34:04,790 --> 01:34:03,040
you know i know it sounds kind of

2516
01:34:06,870 --> 01:34:04,800
dramatic and then everybody claps and

2517
01:34:09,030 --> 01:34:06,880
everyone's like oh no she really said

2518
01:34:10,790 --> 01:34:09,040
that and i was just like that's that's

2519
01:34:13,990 --> 01:34:10,800
fine i respect your

2520
01:34:16,070 --> 01:34:14,000
you know how you feel like

2521
01:34:18,790 --> 01:34:16,080
most kids whatever their parents believe

2522
01:34:19,590 --> 01:34:18,800
that's what they believe and she's just

2523
01:34:22,149 --> 01:34:19,600
like

2524
01:34:24,229 --> 01:34:22,159
yeah or when you're right or when you're

2525
01:34:26,629 --> 01:34:24,239
when you reach a certain age you rebel

2526
01:34:29,110 --> 01:34:26,639
against what your parents believe too i

2527
01:34:31,430 --> 01:34:29,120
think that was my thing like i

2528
01:34:32,790 --> 01:34:31,440
i made it most through school and i was

2529
01:34:34,470 --> 01:34:32,800
like this is

2530
01:34:37,590 --> 01:34:34,480
this catholic stuff is

2531
01:34:39,750 --> 01:34:37,600
nuts it's just as nuts as scientology or

2532
01:34:40,790 --> 01:34:39,760
anything else you know to believe in all

2533
01:34:41,590 --> 01:34:40,800
of this

2534
01:34:44,830 --> 01:34:41,600
so

2535
01:34:47,830 --> 01:34:44,840
guess too

2536
01:34:49,590 --> 01:34:47,840
right yeah yeah very much i think that's

2537
01:34:51,830 --> 01:34:49,600
that could be the atheism because you

2538
01:34:53,910 --> 01:34:51,840
know i i think i first i was like more

2539
01:34:55,750 --> 01:34:53,920
agnostic like i don't know maybe there's

2540
01:34:57,350 --> 01:34:55,760
a higher power i just don't agree with

2541
01:35:00,390 --> 01:34:57,360
organized religion

2542
01:35:03,189 --> 01:35:00,400
and then i went to straight atheism and

2543
01:35:05,750 --> 01:35:03,199
yeah and then now i i don't know i i

2544
01:35:09,109 --> 01:35:07,750
i'll get to it later i'll figure it out

2545
01:35:11,189 --> 01:35:09,119
one day yeah

2546
01:35:13,189 --> 01:35:11,199
yeah you know i hate to i hate to say

2547
01:35:15,350 --> 01:35:13,199
this but like i used to be a lot more

2548
01:35:17,270 --> 01:35:15,360
into spirituality and meditation and

2549
01:35:20,709 --> 01:35:17,280
other things and i was going to like

2550
01:35:22,950 --> 01:35:20,719
some classes on buddhism and

2551
01:35:24,950 --> 01:35:22,960
lectures on buddhism and

2552
01:35:27,510 --> 01:35:24,960
and all these things and then i just got

2553
01:35:29,830 --> 01:35:27,520
so busy that i just go i just don't got

2554
01:35:31,189 --> 01:35:29,840
time for all this you know

2555
01:35:32,790 --> 01:35:31,199
and you're in the same boat like you

2556
01:35:35,750 --> 01:35:32,800
have a family you have priorities you

2557
01:35:37,830 --> 01:35:35,760
got stuff going on and uh i don't have

2558
01:35:39,830 --> 01:35:37,840
the time really i wish i had more time

2559
01:35:41,669 --> 01:35:39,840
to dedicate to it

2560
01:35:43,910 --> 01:35:41,679
there's definite benefits

2561
01:35:47,669 --> 01:35:43,920
to having some form absolutely religion

2562
01:35:49,510 --> 01:35:47,679
or spirituality or something

2563
01:35:51,910 --> 01:35:49,520
yeah and then you know

2564
01:35:54,550 --> 01:35:51,920
bringing the kids to like church and all

2565
01:35:56,390 --> 01:35:54,560
that stuff too like my my kids

2566
01:35:58,470 --> 01:35:56,400
don't have that kind of attention span

2567
01:36:01,189 --> 01:35:58,480
they can't sit in a pew and listen to

2568
01:36:03,030 --> 01:36:01,199
some guy read from the bible no way i

2569
01:36:05,109 --> 01:36:03,040
can never even i could never even

2570
01:36:06,709 --> 01:36:05,119
attempt my autistic son then my

2571
01:36:08,149 --> 01:36:06,719
three-year-old he might you know if you

2572
01:36:11,109 --> 01:36:08,159
give him some lollipops or something

2573
01:36:13,270 --> 01:36:11,119
shut him up every once in a while

2574
01:36:15,030 --> 01:36:13,280
but the seventh autistic one is like too

2575
01:36:16,790 --> 01:36:15,040
wired he would never sit still through

2576
01:36:18,550 --> 01:36:16,800
that we can't go to like a movie with

2577
01:36:20,709 --> 01:36:18,560
him he can't sit through a movie same

2578
01:36:23,669 --> 01:36:20,719
hair yeah we've never been never tried

2579
01:36:26,070 --> 01:36:23,679
we don't want to waste the money

2580
01:36:28,790 --> 01:36:26,080
it's not no we already know that's the

2581
01:36:30,870 --> 01:36:28,800
same way like so how do yeah i know they

2582
01:36:32,790 --> 01:36:30,880
have um

2583
01:36:34,709 --> 01:36:32,800
daycares and stuff but i don't want my

2584
01:36:36,870 --> 01:36:34,719
stranger watching my kid that i don't

2585
01:36:39,430 --> 01:36:36,880
know you know actually no let me take

2586
01:36:41,990 --> 01:36:39,440
that back i did i did go to a church one

2587
01:36:44,070 --> 01:36:42,000
time with a friend when syria was

2588
01:36:46,229 --> 01:36:44,080
10 months old or something like that and

2589
01:36:47,990 --> 01:36:46,239
i put him in the daycare and they called

2590
01:36:51,270 --> 01:36:48,000
my cell phone within

2591
01:36:53,270 --> 01:36:51,280
i want to say 45 minutes and they made

2592
01:36:55,510 --> 01:36:53,280
me come get him he got kicked out and

2593
01:36:58,470 --> 01:36:55,520
the lady flat out said to me

2594
01:37:00,950 --> 01:36:58,480
furio why would you name him that

2595
01:37:03,990 --> 01:37:00,960
is that why he's so furious

2596
01:37:06,149 --> 01:37:04,000
like that's crazy yeah the lady flat out

2597
01:37:08,709 --> 01:37:06,159
asked me why i named my son dad i'm like

2598
01:37:11,189 --> 01:37:08,719
it's some damn culture you asked like

2599
01:37:13,189 --> 01:37:11,199
you know yeah like how can you sit there

2600
01:37:17,030 --> 01:37:13,199
and ask me why yeah why did you name

2601
01:37:21,669 --> 01:37:19,590
like you know i i i don't know

2602
01:37:23,189 --> 01:37:21,679
i hate florida i hate it here i need to

2603
01:37:24,709 --> 01:37:23,199
get out of this point

2604
01:37:26,470 --> 01:37:24,719
i don't know my favorite place in the

2605
01:37:28,149 --> 01:37:26,480
universe is singer island florida i

2606
01:37:29,510 --> 01:37:28,159
think i told you that you should check

2607
01:37:31,270 --> 01:37:29,520
that place out

2608
01:37:34,229 --> 01:37:31,280
it's my probably my favorite place in

2609
01:37:37,109 --> 01:37:34,239
the united states anyway

2610
01:37:39,270 --> 01:37:37,119
you know i've never been to disney world

2611
01:37:40,790 --> 01:37:39,280
wow yeah it's like being

2612
01:37:42,229 --> 01:37:40,800
four hours away you know many people

2613
01:37:43,669 --> 01:37:42,239
that live in philadelphia that have

2614
01:37:45,590 --> 01:37:43,679
never been to like the philadelphia art

2615
01:37:47,189 --> 01:37:45,600
museum or the philadelphia zoo and

2616
01:37:49,109 --> 01:37:47,199
they're world famous like people come

2617
01:37:50,950 --> 01:37:49,119
from china to go to those places where

2618
01:37:52,790 --> 01:37:50,960
we just is that where they got rocky

2619
01:37:56,709 --> 01:37:52,800
yeah yeah that's where they filmed these

2620
01:37:58,950 --> 01:37:56,719
rocky steps to philadelphia museum

2621
01:38:05,430 --> 01:37:58,960
that scene makes me cry that's when the

2622
01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:07,830
near mick's gym in that movie right near

2623
01:38:12,709 --> 01:38:10,000
mixed gym in the fish store where adrian

2624
01:38:14,870 --> 01:38:12,719
worked like my house growing up was

2625
01:38:16,870 --> 01:38:14,880
around the corner from there so yes kids

2626
01:38:19,109 --> 01:38:16,880
would always go and that fish store was

2627
01:38:20,709 --> 01:38:19,119
abandoned for years and just locked up

2628
01:38:23,189 --> 01:38:20,719
but you could go and see it and the same

2629
01:38:25,669 --> 01:38:23,199
with the mixed gym you know

2630
01:38:28,310 --> 01:38:25,679
yes there no bum you're gonna eat

2631
01:38:31,750 --> 01:38:28,320
lightning and crap thunder i love i love

2632
01:38:34,149 --> 01:38:31,760
rocky i yeah it's the best it's like the

2633
01:38:36,629 --> 01:38:34,159
best underdog story ever i think it

2634
01:38:38,149 --> 01:38:36,639
probably went on too it went on too long

2635
01:38:39,990 --> 01:38:38,159
but yeah

2636
01:38:42,229 --> 01:38:40,000
yeah because now it's creed it's based

2637
01:38:44,470 --> 01:38:42,239
on apollo's sun right

2638
01:38:46,229 --> 01:38:44,480
i haven't seen any of those yeah i saw

2639
01:38:48,550 --> 01:38:46,239
both of those and then interestingly

2640
01:38:49,990 --> 01:38:48,560
they filmed the some of creed right near

2641
01:38:52,070 --> 01:38:50,000
the house that i was living in

2642
01:38:53,430 --> 01:38:52,080
philadelphia right before i moved they

2643
01:38:55,750 --> 01:38:53,440
put that out

2644
01:38:58,070 --> 01:38:55,760
they put that fake creed gym like like

2645
01:38:59,109 --> 01:38:58,080
half a mile from my house that i just

2646
01:39:00,950 --> 01:38:59,119
moved from

2647
01:39:02,550 --> 01:39:00,960
that's interesting wow so it's like

2648
01:39:05,350 --> 01:39:02,560
weird like rocky's been following me

2649
01:39:07,109 --> 01:39:05,360
around it's one of my favorite movies

2650
01:39:09,510 --> 01:39:07,119
it really is yeah me too

2651
01:39:11,430 --> 01:39:09,520
they just put out um a new what's what's

2652
01:39:13,669 --> 01:39:11,440
his name the other one he does lone god

2653
01:39:16,629 --> 01:39:13,679
he's got to be up there what 75 oh yeah

2654
01:39:19,430 --> 01:39:16,639
he did the last rambo last blood rambo

2655
01:39:21,910 --> 01:39:19,440
can't lie i think i'm gonna watch them

2656
01:39:23,910 --> 01:39:21,920
all in order and then watch that one do

2657
01:39:27,510 --> 01:39:23,920
you know what i mean oh really yeah i

2658
01:39:29,750 --> 01:39:27,520
think i'm gonna have a rambo fest

2659
01:39:31,109 --> 01:39:29,760
oh god i haven't seen rambo in a while i

2660
01:39:33,270 --> 01:39:31,119
did watch the

2661
01:39:35,189 --> 01:39:33,280
i think what was it the fifth one

2662
01:39:38,070 --> 01:39:35,199
yeah what was it called john it was

2663
01:39:40,149 --> 01:39:38,080
called like john rambo or something or

2664
01:39:41,830 --> 01:39:40,159
yeah i did watch that one is that the

2665
01:39:43,350 --> 01:39:41,840
last one they had out the last one they

2666
01:39:45,030 --> 01:39:43,360
had out before this one and which is

2667
01:39:46,790 --> 01:39:45,040
weird because it was down i think it was

2668
01:39:48,790 --> 01:39:46,800
like south america or something in that

2669
01:39:50,390 --> 01:39:48,800
one and now he's like a cowboy or

2670
01:39:52,390 --> 01:39:50,400
something

2671
01:39:53,910 --> 01:39:52,400
and he's got a family oh my gosh

2672
01:39:55,590 --> 01:39:53,920
i don't know but it's interesting that

2673
01:39:58,790 --> 01:39:55,600
he keeps going with those movies because

2674
01:40:00,629 --> 01:39:58,800
they they they make money

2675
01:40:02,790 --> 01:40:00,639
yeah they do yeah they do what was it

2676
01:40:04,470 --> 01:40:02,800
the 70s when it first came out yeah when

2677
01:40:11,189 --> 01:40:04,480
rocky first came out i think it was like

2678
01:40:14,870 --> 01:40:12,310
geez

2679
01:40:16,790 --> 01:40:14,880
yeah so i guess i would just close with

2680
01:40:19,510 --> 01:40:16,800
asking you like what are you going to be

2681
01:40:21,350 --> 01:40:19,520
working on coming up for your new videos

2682
01:40:23,030 --> 01:40:21,360
i know you're working on the colt story

2683
01:40:25,350 --> 01:40:23,040
and then you're going to be coming back

2684
01:40:31,350 --> 01:40:25,360
and doing some kind of special reports

2685
01:40:35,590 --> 01:40:33,350
i'm doing the cult thing and i think i'm

2686
01:40:38,550 --> 01:40:35,600
going to do that like a series because

2687
01:40:40,070 --> 01:40:38,560
it's just there's so many different ufo

2688
01:40:43,109 --> 01:40:40,080
cults out there like

2689
01:40:47,350 --> 01:40:43,119
seriously i i couldn't believe it um

2690
01:40:49,189 --> 01:40:47,360
and a lot of them are very parallel to

2691
01:40:51,510 --> 01:40:49,199
sparing alliance

2692
01:40:53,910 --> 01:40:51,520
cult religion spirituality belief

2693
01:40:56,550 --> 01:40:53,920
whatever you want to call it um so i

2694
01:40:59,990 --> 01:40:56,560
might just do it like a series and go

2695
01:41:03,350 --> 01:41:00,000
over each individual

2696
01:41:07,109 --> 01:41:03,360
ufo religion cult and compare it you

2697
01:41:09,030 --> 01:41:07,119
know um yeah i i know for a fact that

2698
01:41:11,189 --> 01:41:09,040
corey goode stole a lot of this stuff

2699
01:41:11,910 --> 01:41:11,199
from heaven's gate as well as that other

2700
01:41:16,229 --> 01:41:11,920
one

2701
01:41:19,910 --> 01:41:16,239
so it's it's interesting how much of

2702
01:41:23,590 --> 01:41:19,920
their stuff is like the same material

2703
01:41:25,830 --> 01:41:23,600
they um the unarians too

2704
01:41:28,550 --> 01:41:25,840
yeah it had this big blonde woman that

2705
01:41:31,510 --> 01:41:28,560
was like the cult leader

2706
01:41:33,109 --> 01:41:31,520
i think so that one yeah it was that one

2707
01:41:35,830 --> 01:41:33,119
was with the husband and wife i know

2708
01:41:38,149 --> 01:41:35,840
they founded it yeah um but then there's

2709
01:41:39,510 --> 01:41:38,159
also urantia book

2710
01:41:41,750 --> 01:41:39,520
that one

2711
01:41:44,229 --> 01:41:41,760
is pretty crazy it's like a 2 000 page

2712
01:41:46,870 --> 01:41:44,239
book yes and you know what i've tried to

2713
01:41:50,470 --> 01:41:46,880
read that book and uh i got it

2714
01:41:53,030 --> 01:41:50,480
yeah and uh listen i i am a voracious

2715
01:41:55,350 --> 01:41:53,040
reader when i can focus and concentrate

2716
01:41:57,590 --> 01:41:55,360
i really like books i got a big huge

2717
01:41:59,669 --> 01:41:57,600
bookshelf in my new house i was so happy

2718
01:42:01,910 --> 01:41:59,679
that i had that like wall bookshelf you

2719
01:42:04,070 --> 01:42:01,920
know that goes on the whole wall and i'm

2720
01:42:06,709 --> 01:42:04,080
like finally i of course right before i

2721
01:42:09,350 --> 01:42:06,719
moved i gave away or sold a great many

2722
01:42:11,510 --> 01:42:09,360
books but i love books there's a few

2723
01:42:13,669 --> 01:42:11,520
books in my lifetime that i have had

2724
01:42:16,470 --> 01:42:13,679
trouble reading one of them is the

2725
01:42:18,550 --> 01:42:16,480
urantia book because it's so densely

2726
01:42:20,629 --> 01:42:18,560
packed with information

2727
01:42:25,590 --> 01:42:20,639
and for those who don't know it was like

2728
01:42:27,189 --> 01:42:25,600
a channeled book basically and geez god

2729
01:42:29,189 --> 01:42:27,199
the thing that makes me the thing that

2730
01:42:31,350 --> 01:42:29,199
makes me suspect about the urantia book

2731
01:42:34,470 --> 01:42:31,360
it's like it's too good to be true it's

2732
01:42:36,550 --> 01:42:34,480
like every question to every religious

2733
01:42:38,790 --> 01:42:36,560
question every question you've ever had

2734
01:42:40,709 --> 01:42:38,800
about religion god the creation of the

2735
01:42:43,430 --> 01:42:40,719
universe spirituality how you should

2736
01:42:46,550 --> 01:42:43,440
live your life it's all in there

2737
01:42:49,030 --> 01:42:46,560
but it's so oh it's so crazy the way

2738
01:42:51,350 --> 01:42:49,040
it's written it's like so densely packed

2739
01:42:52,950 --> 01:42:51,360
that you can't just read it page by page

2740
01:42:55,030 --> 01:42:52,960
you kind of have to read a paragraph

2741
01:42:58,790 --> 01:42:55,040
stop think about it for a while read the

2742
01:43:01,990 --> 01:42:58,800
next and it's 2 000 pages of this

2743
01:43:03,510 --> 01:43:02,000
yeah that and yeah it's in the bible

2744
01:43:05,910 --> 01:43:03,520
that and the

2745
01:43:09,350 --> 01:43:05,920
bhagavad-gita

2746
01:43:11,189 --> 01:43:09,360
uh is the two books that i struggle and

2747
01:43:13,590 --> 01:43:11,199
someday i'm going to get through them

2748
01:43:15,669 --> 01:43:13,600
but jeez both of those

2749
01:43:18,709 --> 01:43:15,679
yeah so the urantia book is kind of ufo

2750
01:43:22,870 --> 01:43:18,719
culty but they include jesus and

2751
01:43:25,510 --> 01:43:22,880
and a lot of jesus lucifer yeah and the

2752
01:43:27,590 --> 01:43:25,520
war between the angels and the demons

2753
01:43:30,070 --> 01:43:27,600
and it's really

2754
01:43:33,109 --> 01:43:30,080
uh it pulls from a lot of existing

2755
01:43:34,550 --> 01:43:33,119
material but it presents all new stories

2756
01:43:37,109 --> 01:43:34,560
you know

2757
01:43:39,030 --> 01:43:37,119
oh yeah the creation and just the i

2758
01:43:40,950 --> 01:43:39,040
watched a video yesterday on it and it

2759
01:43:43,590 --> 01:43:40,960
was like a four-minute video about where

2760
01:43:45,750 --> 01:43:43,600
we are in the universe and it was like

2761
01:43:48,070 --> 01:43:45,760
we're part of this local star cluster

2762
01:43:49,750 --> 01:43:48,080
and this galaxy and this universe which

2763
01:43:51,510 --> 01:43:49,760
is part of the micro universe which is

2764
01:43:53,750 --> 01:43:51,520
part of our sub universe which is part

2765
01:43:55,590 --> 01:43:53,760
of the maxi universe which is part of

2766
01:43:57,270 --> 01:43:55,600
the center and it's like you see what i

2767
01:43:59,750 --> 01:43:57,280
mean you got to stop and think about

2768
01:44:00,709 --> 01:43:59,760
these things you can't just roll with it

2769
01:44:01,590 --> 01:44:00,719
you know

2770
01:44:03,590 --> 01:44:01,600
yeah

2771
01:44:05,430 --> 01:44:03,600
it was insane and then it's like we're

2772
01:44:07,990 --> 01:44:05,440
all part of the middle and then there's

2773
01:44:10,709 --> 01:44:08,000
like i it seriously like hurt my head to

2774
01:44:12,310 --> 01:44:10,719
even think of these numbers

2775
01:44:14,310 --> 01:44:12,320
i'm glad you reminded me of this because

2776
01:44:17,189 --> 01:44:14,320
i had on my list of things to do is

2777
01:44:19,590 --> 01:44:17,199
there's a a very prominent urantia book

2778
01:44:21,270 --> 01:44:19,600
guy he's got tons of lectures on youtube

2779
01:44:23,590 --> 01:44:21,280
on the new rancho book i want to get him

2780
01:44:25,669 --> 01:44:23,600
on my show that's an amazing this book

2781
01:44:27,590 --> 01:44:25,679
is crazy you could do

2782
01:44:30,470 --> 01:44:27,600
is it the dude that does the uh the

2783
01:44:32,629 --> 01:44:30,480
older guy yeah yeah yeah i'll get you

2784
01:44:34,709 --> 01:44:32,639
his name i'll get you his name off here

2785
01:44:36,950 --> 01:44:34,719
i got it but not in front of me and that

2786
01:44:38,229 --> 01:44:36,960
guy gives tons of lectures seems very

2787
01:44:40,470 --> 01:44:38,239
knowledgeable i want to get a guy like

2788
01:44:41,430 --> 01:44:40,480
him on my show to talk about this book

2789
01:44:43,350 --> 01:44:41,440
because

2790
01:44:44,790 --> 01:44:43,360
like i said my only reservation my

2791
01:44:47,109 --> 01:44:44,800
biggest reservation whether it's like

2792
01:44:49,430 --> 01:44:47,119
it's too good to be true it's like every

2793
01:44:51,510 --> 01:44:49,440
answer you've ever wanted is in there

2794
01:44:54,470 --> 01:44:51,520
and uh and then that is like a fully

2795
01:44:55,590 --> 01:44:54,480
realized religion like that is there's

2796
01:45:02,550 --> 01:44:55,600
no

2797
01:45:05,350 --> 01:45:02,560
it is fully embodied realized like 100

2798
01:45:07,350 --> 01:45:05,360
percent like for real

2799
01:45:09,430 --> 01:45:07,360
yeah and it sort of like updates

2800
01:45:12,229 --> 01:45:09,440
christianity for modern age because it

2801
01:45:13,750 --> 01:45:12,239
brings in space and science and

2802
01:45:15,990 --> 01:45:13,760
you know uh

2803
01:45:17,669 --> 01:45:16,000
all this kind of stuff and there's some

2804
01:45:18,790 --> 01:45:17,679
evidence to suggest that even though it

2805
01:45:20,790 --> 01:45:18,800
was written

2806
01:45:22,870 --> 01:45:20,800
uh many years ago that some of the

2807
01:45:26,149 --> 01:45:22,880
science presented in that book is just

2808
01:45:28,790 --> 01:45:26,159
now becoming discovered and is true

2809
01:45:30,870 --> 01:45:28,800
which is crazy that's crazy like this

2810
01:45:32,870 --> 01:45:30,880
book was written 50 years ago and you're

2811
01:45:34,550 --> 01:45:32,880
just now figuring out some of this

2812
01:45:36,070 --> 01:45:34,560
quantum physics stuff that's talking

2813
01:45:38,950 --> 01:45:36,080
about is true

2814
01:45:41,030 --> 01:45:38,960
that's crazy and aren't they not sure

2815
01:45:43,109 --> 01:45:41,040
who actually authored it like it's kind

2816
01:45:46,950 --> 01:45:43,119
of what they think they'd use

2817
01:45:49,109 --> 01:45:46,960
depends on who you ask you know uh

2818
01:45:52,229 --> 01:45:49,119
some urantia experts have told me that

2819
01:45:54,149 --> 01:45:52,239
no it was not channeled it was

2820
01:45:55,750 --> 01:45:54,159
a page would appear

2821
01:45:58,070 --> 01:45:55,760
you know and then

2822
01:46:00,229 --> 01:45:58,080
they would ask questions to the hum you

2823
01:46:01,590 --> 01:46:00,239
know the humans could ask questions

2824
01:46:03,270 --> 01:46:01,600
about that page and then they would

2825
01:46:05,510 --> 01:46:03,280
write the page again and it would appear

2826
01:46:07,270 --> 01:46:05,520
and all this crazy story where it came

2827
01:46:09,030 --> 01:46:07,280
from and then other people just say no

2828
01:46:10,709 --> 01:46:09,040
it was channeled so there's some

2829
01:46:13,270 --> 01:46:10,719
mysterious

2830
01:46:14,709 --> 01:46:13,280
portions just of its origin

2831
01:46:15,750 --> 01:46:14,719
where did it right where did it come

2832
01:46:18,629 --> 01:46:15,760
from

2833
01:46:20,070 --> 01:46:18,639
how did it get here

2834
01:46:21,990 --> 01:46:20,080
and people that are part of this

2835
01:46:23,430 --> 01:46:22,000
religion like they are just they are

2836
01:46:24,870 --> 01:46:23,440
beaming from air to ear they look like

2837
01:46:28,629 --> 01:46:24,880
they slept with a coat hanger in their

2838
01:46:31,430 --> 01:46:28,639
mouth there just like rooster i love it

2839
01:46:33,830 --> 01:46:31,440
and i think my life i think that could

2840
01:46:35,510 --> 01:46:33,840
be because of like

2841
01:46:38,709 --> 01:46:35,520
oh you know you spend your whole life

2842
01:46:41,590 --> 01:46:38,719
wanting answers right and i gotta say i

2843
01:46:42,950 --> 01:46:41,600
didn't get i got through i don't know

2844
01:46:46,070 --> 01:46:42,960
maybe uh

2845
01:46:47,270 --> 01:46:46,080
not half a quarter of it it sounds like

2846
01:46:50,390 --> 01:46:47,280
god bless you

2847
01:46:52,470 --> 01:46:50,400
it sounds great it sounds great it's

2848
01:46:54,310 --> 01:46:52,480
like then it makes you feel good some of

2849
01:46:56,149 --> 01:46:54,320
it it's like

2850
01:46:58,550 --> 01:46:56,159
confirming some things you thought were

2851
01:46:59,910 --> 01:46:58,560
true and giving you the answers to other

2852
01:47:00,950 --> 01:46:59,920
stuff that you never

2853
01:47:03,030 --> 01:47:00,960
really

2854
01:47:05,189 --> 01:47:03,040
even knew that you wanted to know but

2855
01:47:07,510 --> 01:47:05,199
when you read it you go yeah this makes

2856
01:47:10,070 --> 01:47:07,520
so so much sense that's what makes me

2857
01:47:11,750 --> 01:47:10,080
suspect about it though it's that saying

2858
01:47:13,510 --> 01:47:11,760
like if it sounds too good to be true it

2859
01:47:15,430 --> 01:47:13,520
probably is

2860
01:47:19,189 --> 01:47:15,440
yeah yeah

2861
01:47:20,470 --> 01:47:19,199
yeah it's it's it's even hard to find

2862
01:47:22,390 --> 01:47:20,480
besides like that one guy you had

2863
01:47:24,950 --> 01:47:22,400
brought up like it's hard to find people

2864
01:47:27,669 --> 01:47:24,960
explaining it like i just wanted a basic

2865
01:47:30,149 --> 01:47:27,679
rundown of the religion

2866
01:47:32,310 --> 01:47:30,159
yeah like there's no i can't really find

2867
01:47:36,229 --> 01:47:32,320
any videos on that it's just like it's

2868
01:47:37,669 --> 01:47:36,239
by each chapter and part of the book and

2869
01:47:39,669 --> 01:47:37,679
now there's definitely there's

2870
01:47:41,590 --> 01:47:39,679
definitely i'll get you the links uh

2871
01:47:43,510 --> 01:47:41,600
there's definitely at least that one

2872
01:47:45,669 --> 01:47:43,520
gentleman that i talked about he gives

2873
01:47:47,109 --> 01:47:45,679
like a synopsis of this is what this

2874
01:47:49,030 --> 01:47:47,119
part of the book is about this is what

2875
01:47:50,950 --> 01:47:49,040
this part of the book is about this is

2876
01:47:52,709 --> 01:47:50,960
where the book came from or was reported

2877
01:47:55,030 --> 01:47:52,719
to have come from so there's some

2878
01:47:56,629 --> 01:47:55,040
history yeah and it's a good sum up a

2879
01:47:58,709 --> 01:47:56,639
couple hours maybe to go through the

2880
01:47:59,990 --> 01:47:58,719
whole thing but it's it's excellent some

2881
01:48:01,430 --> 01:48:00,000
up and one of the things that got me

2882
01:48:03,590 --> 01:48:01,440
interested and then i had to buy the

2883
01:48:06,310 --> 01:48:03,600
book and try to read it and i gotta tell

2884
01:48:08,550 --> 01:48:06,320
you i don't know i sort of gave up for

2885
01:48:10,790 --> 01:48:08,560
now but i was yeah every once in a while

2886
01:48:12,070 --> 01:48:10,800
go back to it keep a bookmark you know

2887
01:48:15,430 --> 01:48:12,080
because it's

2888
01:48:17,430 --> 01:48:15,440
tough read tough to read this yeah

2889
01:48:19,830 --> 01:48:17,440
yeah it's yeah that's that's one thing

2890
01:48:21,910 --> 01:48:19,840
that i grasped that it was a tough read

2891
01:48:23,990 --> 01:48:21,920
and i read some pretty tough books you

2892
01:48:26,229 --> 01:48:24,000
know like i like a challenge but that

2893
01:48:28,229 --> 01:48:26,239
nah nah i'll pass it

2894
01:48:30,830 --> 01:48:28,239
you can read it for me yeah and see this

2895
01:48:33,750 --> 01:48:30,840
is just one of the things that

2896
01:48:36,310 --> 01:48:33,760
uh stina maria is going to be looking

2897
01:48:38,550 --> 01:48:36,320
into with and for us i hope that is

2898
01:48:40,950 --> 01:48:38,560
awesome and we're so glad to have some

2899
01:48:42,470 --> 01:48:40,960
help here and uh and we talked about

2900
01:48:43,350 --> 01:48:42,480
some of the other things that we could

2901
01:48:45,189 --> 01:48:43,360
do

2902
01:48:47,750 --> 01:48:45,199
so you know and i want to make sure that

2903
01:48:50,149 --> 01:48:47,760
everybody should support her and

2904
01:48:51,350 --> 01:48:50,159
subscribe to her youtube channel that

2905
01:48:53,109 --> 01:48:51,360
would be the best way that you could

2906
01:48:55,270 --> 01:48:53,119
support her for now do you want to give

2907
01:48:57,750 --> 01:48:55,280
people that

2908
01:48:59,270 --> 01:48:57,760
your youtube id again so they just put

2909
01:49:01,430 --> 01:48:59,280
this in the search box you let them know

2910
01:49:05,750 --> 01:49:01,440
what it is

2911
01:49:06,709 --> 01:49:05,760
yeah it's stina s t i n a space b o

2912
01:49:09,270 --> 01:49:06,719
space

2913
01:49:13,430 --> 01:49:09,280
dina b i n a stina bobina and then my

2914
01:49:15,510 --> 01:49:13,440
twitter is cena maria xo

2915
01:49:17,990 --> 01:49:15,520
awesome great so

2916
01:49:19,430 --> 01:49:18,000
i i think that uh

2917
01:49:21,669 --> 01:49:19,440
i just want to thank you for taking the

2918
01:49:23,830 --> 01:49:21,679
time to do this today and also you know

2919
01:49:25,430 --> 01:49:23,840
for for agreeing to help me with some of

2920
01:49:27,270 --> 01:49:25,440
this investigative work because we

2921
01:49:29,589 --> 01:49:27,280
talked about this it takes a long time

2922
01:49:32,229 --> 01:49:29,599
to do some of this stuff

2923
01:49:34,709 --> 01:49:32,239
oh my god yeah really it really does and

2924
01:49:36,149 --> 01:49:34,719
then you get distracted and then you

2925
01:49:38,390 --> 01:49:36,159
have to go all the way back all over

2926
01:49:41,109 --> 01:49:38,400
again it's a lot of

2927
01:49:42,390 --> 01:49:41,119
it's a lot to keep track of

2928
01:49:45,030 --> 01:49:42,400
yeah absolutely

2929
01:49:46,550 --> 01:49:45,040
uh so maybe uh with the two of us

2930
01:49:49,270 --> 01:49:46,560
looking into some of this stuff i think

2931
01:49:51,350 --> 01:49:49,280
we could do much better

2932
01:49:52,870 --> 01:49:51,360
oh yeah oh yeah pretty sure yeah we're

2933
01:49:55,510 --> 01:49:52,880
gonna do good we're gonna we're gonna

2934
01:49:57,510 --> 01:49:55,520
make some people mad

2935
01:49:59,030 --> 01:49:57,520
well that's always a good side benefit

2936
01:50:00,149 --> 01:49:59,040
it's like that saying like i don't

2937
01:50:02,629 --> 01:50:00,159
really want to get out of bed in the

2938
01:50:06,470 --> 01:50:02,639
morning but i have people to piss off

2939
01:50:10,950 --> 01:50:08,870
yeah i told somebody i was like i want

2940
01:50:14,070 --> 01:50:10,960
corey good to be triggered by the color

2941
01:50:17,189 --> 01:50:14,080
pink by the time i'm done

2942
01:50:19,350 --> 01:50:17,199
i'm pretty sure that he will be in fact

2943
01:50:21,750 --> 01:50:19,360
i think he already is

2944
01:50:24,149 --> 01:50:21,760
well my friends i want to thank each and

2945
01:50:26,629 --> 01:50:24,159
every one of you for joining us here on

2946
01:50:28,470 --> 01:50:26,639
the fringe fm i'm

2947
01:50:30,550 --> 01:50:28,480
happy to announce that the midnight hour

2948
01:50:33,430 --> 01:50:30,560
show is sort of turning into a group

2949
01:50:36,070 --> 01:50:33,440
effort which is awesome besides the

2950
01:50:38,870 --> 01:50:36,080
addition of stina maria as our new

2951
01:50:40,709 --> 01:50:38,880
investigative reporter she's going to be

2952
01:50:43,189 --> 01:50:40,719
bringing a lot of topics to us and

2953
01:50:44,950 --> 01:50:43,199
special reports and investigations that

2954
01:50:48,229 --> 01:50:44,960
we're working on

2955
01:50:50,870 --> 01:50:48,239
we have also added spooky which some of

2956
01:50:52,870 --> 01:50:50,880
you may know from the youtube channel

2957
01:50:55,589 --> 01:50:52,880
reality check she did a lot of their

2958
01:50:57,669 --> 01:50:55,599
production work and graphics and videos

2959
01:50:58,790 --> 01:50:57,679
and things like that for them

2960
01:51:01,189 --> 01:50:58,800
um

2961
01:51:02,790 --> 01:51:01,199
unfortunately i'm not really sure what

2962
01:51:04,229 --> 01:51:02,800
happened but she's no longer working

2963
01:51:07,109 --> 01:51:04,239
with them

2964
01:51:09,430 --> 01:51:07,119
she being a good friend of steena uh

2965
01:51:11,830 --> 01:51:09,440
sort of talked to me and i asked her if

2966
01:51:15,189 --> 01:51:11,840
she would be willing to help us and now

2967
01:51:17,669 --> 01:51:15,199
she will be our new graphics and sort of

2968
01:51:20,310 --> 01:51:17,679
video production person

2969
01:51:23,030 --> 01:51:20,320
uh she's already doing amazing work and

2970
01:51:24,390 --> 01:51:23,040
we're so happy to have her on the team

2971
01:51:26,709 --> 01:51:24,400
as well

2972
01:51:28,790 --> 01:51:26,719
so i guess what i would say is that

2973
01:51:30,629 --> 01:51:28,800
going forward

2974
01:51:32,709 --> 01:51:30,639
i think that the show is going to be so

2975
01:51:34,229 --> 01:51:32,719
much better because

2976
01:51:37,589 --> 01:51:34,239
we're going gonna have multiple people

2977
01:51:40,310 --> 01:51:37,599
working on it and i gotta tell you that

2978
01:51:42,390 --> 01:51:40,320
doing trying to do all of this stuff by

2979
01:51:44,149 --> 01:51:42,400
yourself it's kind of like burning the

2980
01:51:46,830 --> 01:51:44,159
candle at both ends and it becomes

2981
01:51:49,669 --> 01:51:46,840
mission impossible to keep up that

2982
01:51:51,589 --> 01:51:49,679
workflow as hard as i try just you know

2983
01:51:53,430 --> 01:51:51,599
i some things are going to suffer if i

2984
01:51:55,109 --> 01:51:53,440
don't have some help so

2985
01:51:57,030 --> 01:51:55,119
people are willing to help and for the

2986
01:51:59,109 --> 01:51:57,040
first time i'm willing to accept it

2987
01:52:01,910 --> 01:51:59,119
because i want to make the show bigger

2988
01:52:03,589 --> 01:52:01,920
and better than ever before and i'm sure

2989
01:52:06,790 --> 01:52:03,599
with the addition of this new

2990
01:52:09,830 --> 01:52:06,800
investigative reporter stina and with

2991
01:52:11,430 --> 01:52:09,840
graphics and production help from spooky

2992
01:52:12,709 --> 01:52:11,440
it's going to be bigger and better than

2993
01:52:14,470 --> 01:52:12,719
ever before

2994
01:52:16,870 --> 01:52:14,480
i want to thank both of them for

2995
01:52:19,350 --> 01:52:16,880
trusting and believing in me enough to

2996
01:52:21,990 --> 01:52:19,360
join this team effort

2997
01:52:23,910 --> 01:52:22,000
i also want to remind my listeners that

2998
01:52:26,950 --> 01:52:23,920
this show is now a

2999
01:52:30,229 --> 01:52:26,960
listener or viewer supported show you

3000
01:52:31,990 --> 01:52:30,239
can visit patreon and search for steven

3001
01:52:35,669 --> 01:52:32,000
cambion

3002
01:52:37,750 --> 01:52:35,679
or visit patreon backslash stevencambian

3003
01:52:39,109 --> 01:52:37,760
and for as little as a dollar a month

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01:52:41,510 --> 01:52:39,119
you can give more if you're feeling

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generous which we would love but

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for as little as just a dollar a month

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you can become an exclusive member

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exclusive members get access to the show

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archives before anyone else there's

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01:52:56,470 --> 01:52:54,320
always this huge delay 8 weeks 10 weeks

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12 weeks sometimes i don't know

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but

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the shows are there they're they're in

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the cloud

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if you become a patreon supporter of the

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01:53:09,510 --> 01:53:07,199
show you get access to those cloud

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01:53:12,149 --> 01:53:09,520
drives where all the shows are you can

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01:53:13,510 --> 01:53:12,159
even get the show early if you are a

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member

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we're also going to offer some exclusive

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content exclusively for our patrons

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i also would appeal to you to please

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please

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take a moment go to our youtube channel

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again just search for stephencambian on

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01:53:34,709 --> 01:53:29,119
youtube

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01:53:37,350 --> 01:53:34,719
stevencambian hit that subscribe button

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hit that notification bell we need

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subscribers i need a bigger megaphone

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until next time folks my name is stephen

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cambion reminding you

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that pleasure can sometimes come from an

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illusion but true happiness can only be

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found